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#22169 - 01/30/06 02:35 PM Re: Mortifying
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Hold the 15 lb. ball to your side with your arm and wrist limp. Then flex your forearm, curl the ball upwards until your hand is at a complete verticle position (the back of your hand and the back of your forearm should continue in a straight line, the wrist is not "broken" backwards at all). If you can hold this position comfortably, the weight of the ball is not a problem. If there is strain, you may want to use a lighter ball for some time or do exercises to build the strength in your wrist.
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#22170 - 01/31/06 04:24 PM Re: Mortifying
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Queen,
Going from 12 lbs to 15 lbs is a big jump! I could tell the difference when I switched down from 15 lbs to 14 lbs, so I assume you would really notice a 3 lb difference. I lowered my ball weight because I was dropping the ball early and was not able to maintain a consistent ball speed throughout a 3-game series.

I don't see how you will build up your wrist strength by going back to your 12 lb ball. I would recommend wrist exercises or a wrist brace. Perhaps the 15 lb ball is a bit heavy for you without a wrist aid. Just a thought...

P.S. Another reason I switched down to 14 lbs is that I found out a lot of men were switching from 16 to 15. I am not nearly as strong as the men bowlers that I know, so I assumed 14 lbs would be the correct weight for me.
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#22171 - 02/03/06 08:33 PM Re: Mortifying
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Registered: 10/01/05
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A/S/L: Female/East Coast
Thanks Freak, when you said that you were dropping the ball early with your 15 lbs, that sounds exactly like what I am really doing.
I really do not want to give up my bowling ball...because I just bought it and I'm sorry, but I can't afford another "good" bowling ball at the moment... As for wrist aids...another person I talked to also mentioned that they might be a good idea.
They showed me their wrist aid, which looked just like a little terry cloth-like wrist band...which only covered their wrist...no fancy straps covering any of their hand or forearm or anything like that.
my question is how does this help strengthen or aid your wrist?

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#22172 - 02/03/06 08:55 PM Re: Mortifying
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That wrist band will not keep you from bending your wrist back. YOu need something a bit more substantial. Ebonite, Masters and Columbia all make a glove that has a metal bar in the top and the glove portion that extends past the wrist. I think that's the most invasive brace to start with. Its not totally unflexable, but enough that it should give you some support. All the rigid plastic braces (including the Moongoose) need to be worn while your ball is fit. They will alter your fit. So you probably don't want to jump straight into one of those.

It is a big jump to go three pounds. You may need some coaching to get your timing re established. Because with the heavier ball, if you are not used to it, the weight of the ball will pull you with it when you pushaway and drag you after it when it comes down from the downswing. While I do advocate that women throw as heavy as they can (and women usually don't throw heavy enough balls). It is all relative to how fit you are, how old you are (I don't see an age on your profile) and how well boned you are. I mean if you are about 5' or 5' 3" and built tiny, then a 15lb ball is probably going to be too heavy unless you have done some pretty consistent work outs during your life.

Erin

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#22173 - 02/06/06 03:13 PM Re: Mortifying
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Queenie,
Erin has a very good point about your timing with the new ball weight. I bet that had a lot to do with me dropping my 15-lb ball. I have a tendency to push away too late, and that causes me to get to the line before my arm swing. Then I try to make up for everything at the line and the ball falls off of my hand, driving it into the lane instead of sending it out over the lane. Maybe that is your issue. A good coach could definitely tell you if this is your problem.

Funny thing is, when I start my push away early enough (beginning of the 2nd step of my 5 step approach) everything else seems to fall into place. I don't have to disect my swing and think about each separate component. It all just works! Without proper timing you cannot expect good results.
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#22174 - 02/06/06 03:16 PM Re: Mortifying
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Forgot to mention...
The wrist brace I wear does not help strengthen my wrist at all. It merely adds support to my wrist and keeps it in a consistent position throughout my swing. Then I can focus on other things besides trying to keep my wrist in the correct position.
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#22175 - 02/07/06 07:42 PM Re: Mortifying
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Registered: 10/01/05
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I think that my timing (maybe) being a key factor is a very good point and im glad that she (erin, i assume) mentioned it. i am 5'10, but i have a small frame overall. i have a mixed reaction when people know i throw 15 lbs, some say i shouldnt but some say i should practice and learn with it. and actually, (bear with me here, i am thinking outloud) i probably have a little bit faster timing with a 12 lb, since it is lighter...and maybe i am self consciously letting go when i usually do with a 12 lb with my 15 and then i drop it early...does that make sense to anyone? lol.

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#22176 - 02/07/06 09:26 PM Re: Mortifying
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I'm 5'9" and use 15. I used to be much more svelt then I am now, but I was still using 15. So I think barring any physical issues, you can learn to control this. However, it probably would be better to go up in increments. 14 would have been better then just jumping to 15. But you are there now, so I suggest some coaching, so that they can see where the timing issues are worse and pin point some ways to get better in time.

Erin

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#22177 - 02/10/06 02:10 PM Re: Mortifying
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I had a problem dropping one of my balls, I used tape and still had some difficulty. I came across a little thing you may want to try. Its called Ron C's Magic tape and it has worked wonders for me,at a minimal cost. Its just a piece of tape that is almost like the fuzzy side of velcro, that you install on the knuckle side of your thumb hole. It takes the place of blacktape. You can add a piece of white textured tape to the other side of the hole if needed to snug it up. It really helped me, I gave a piece to a few guys on my team and they love it. You can get the info online, just Google "Magic tape". Might be worth a look.
Good Luck!!

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#22178 - 02/10/06 02:22 PM Re: Mortifying
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Sorry Queen I gave You the wrong address,
this is the right one for Ron C's Magic Carpet
(not magic tape)
WWW.Bowl4fun.com.

Tim
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