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#20241 - 01/25/05 12:57 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Registered: 01/15/05
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Good vs. Great? I think anyone over 200 is a "good" bowler, just like a golfer in the 70/80's is a "good" golfer.

But "great"? Harder to define. In my opinion, the great bowlers I have seen are versatile. I've bowled in scratch tournaments against two men in particular who I would definitely consider "great". Tim Criss and Rich Wolfe, both current national tour members.

First of all, they are two of the nicest people you would ever want to meet. Have a question? They will advise and help you if they can.

They have one thing in common, they are versatile. Yes, they might have a bad game or two here or there, but they ALWAYS find a way to get it done.

Tapered, blocked, reverse blocked, long oil, short oil...they find a way to get it done and finish at or near the top. And MOST of it is due to a strong mental game. Neither gets rattled easily by a 160 game. Class acts, whether they are bowling well or not.

To me, that is what makes someone "great".

I'll just stay happily at "good", especially in comparison to those two.

John
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#20242 - 01/25/05 05:19 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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I agree with Erin and John, versatility is a great big plus, but I also feel that consistency will lead to versatility. I've bowled with Norm Duke, Gary Dickinson and several others, and it's amazing to watch them.
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#20243 - 01/27/05 01:10 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Jack, I will agree with you there. All the talent in the world, and the ability to be versatile wont help you if you havent "been there before". Just look at how nervous people get with their first 200, 600, 700...etc.

I've had tons of all of the above, so the only real "nerves" I feel anymore are the times I have a shot at 800. (which I still dont have in a league frown )

I guess you have to "progress" all the way through "good" in order to be great. Nerves have a way of making even the best bowlers choke.

You could say that I feel being consistently good and getting "used to all the attention" is necessary for awhile in order to move "up" to great. That's another ingredient in being great...comfort with being watched.

John
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#20244 - 01/27/05 02:30 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Registered: 09/27/04
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Coach, I completely agree that a good bowler is consistant, but on this side of the pond at least consistancy does not have to be a positive thing (just checked this in the Oxford English dictionary (UK)), therefore a bad bowler could still be consistent, just consistently bad. Maybe in US English the term is defined differently?

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#20245 - 01/27/05 03:44 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Just to augment the definition, how about a bowler who is clutch, when the pressure is on? Let's examine 10th frame scenarios, where a difficult spare is made or a bowler just punches out with a turkey. Added pressure (pin differential is so minute) can affect a "ok" bowler and he/she can choke. That's why I love position weeks!

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#20246 - 02/01/05 11:09 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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Clutch bowling is part of it...there is no doubt about that. The really good bowlers can muster out a good 10th frame even when they have been struggling the entire game. How many times have we all seen that rock-solid anchor bowler struggle all game...then need a strike or a mark to win?

Regardless of average, the good bowlers get it done...somehow.

John
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#20247 - 02/01/05 10:26 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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I've done that a few times, shoot better in the last frame when I really need it. Pressure seems to help my game.
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#20248 - 03/07/05 03:31 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Registered: 03/05/05
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I think what makes a good bowler is someone who has mastered the physical part of the game and who has a strong mental game. Another componet that makes a good bowler is someone who makes the time to practice, because if you don't make the time to practice how can you progress. But you also have to practice smart, meaning you have to organize your practice sessions. And the way you do it is to work on one thing at a time. The most time you should put in a practice session is no longe than an hour. If you practice more than an hour then you can overpractice and before you know it you bad habits can surface itself in your game causing a slump. I've been bowling for eight years and have a very solid physical game but my mental game is improving. Good luck and happy bowling.

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#20249 - 03/10/05 12:20 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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Registered: 03/08/05
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IMO a good bowler isn't made on series, score, avg, or even multi-avg. I think in order to be a good bowler you just have to love the game no matter what it throws your way... Of course that's just my personal opinion.

I have averaged over 200 in 7 different houses that I have bowled in. But, I still think that's not what makes me a good bowler. I'm a good bowler because I enjoy bowling no matter what the score.
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#20250 - 03/10/05 12:23 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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To add to my last post... and give my opinion on a great bowler. A great bowler to me is a good bowler that never admits to greatness...

One can never reach greatness if they think they have already achieved it.
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