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#20230 - 01/21/05 08:29 PM good bowlers ?
33brumichen Offline
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What makes a bowler good or great? is it average, 300 games, 800`s

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#20231 - 01/21/05 10:11 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Good question.

I think a good bowler is anyone who is happy with their game. I'm not where I want to be yet and have never bowled a 300 or an 800 total, but my score is climbing every week so I consider myself to be a good bowler.

A great bowler is what I'd like to be someday. smile

I think an average over 200 is a great bowler, but that's just my opinion. Is there an accepted standard for good and great?
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#20232 - 01/21/05 11:28 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Consistancy...

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#20233 - 01/22/05 06:28 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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Hmmm, you could be consistently bad though coach. My personal view would be that anyone who can bowl a 200 average on any condition is a good bowler and will always be in contention for every (non-pro)tournament they enter.

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#20234 - 01/22/05 12:11 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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If you are bad you are not consistent. Bad scores come from lack of consistency.

Averaging 200 across multiple conditions is consistency.

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#20235 - 01/23/05 03:25 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Try a traveling league, if you can average 200+ bowling in a different house every time you bowl, then you are consistent, and a good bowler, right Coach?
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#20236 - 01/23/05 09:01 AM Re: good bowlers ?
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Not 100% convinced here coach, if you have a dodgy technique you could consistently be making exactly the same mistakes, for example if you never follow through properly you can get into a routine of doing this and then it becomes habit and you are making exactly the same mistake every time.

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#20237 - 01/23/05 02:54 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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I think versitility, with a heavy dose of consistency, makes a good bowler. These days just about anyone with wrist and ball speed can average 200. But given different houses and different oil patterns, a good bowler needs to be versitil enough to correctly interpret their ball reaction and move to make it work.

However, keep in mind that the more useless motion you have in your delivery, the more difficult it is to make them all perfect every time. Of course there's different ways to get to the pocket. But the more basic your delivery, the easier it is to make it consistent. That's why you do not see uncoventional styles on the PBA week after week. Dodgy technique will only get you so far, in the long run.

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#20239 - 01/23/05 08:05 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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Coach04 is right, good bowler is consistent. Average really makes no difference. With the THS of today, just about anyone can average over 200 with a little effort, and you don't have to be good to do it.

Anyone who watched today's PBA telecast saw Patrick Allen demonstrate consistency. During the title match, ESPN superimposed two different shots and they were virtually identical. Same body position, same backswing, same release, same mark, etc.

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#20240 - 01/23/05 09:47 PM Re: good bowlers ?
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vjmhera,

(conĚsisĚtenĚcy - Reliability or uniformity of successive results or events.)

You are misusing, or misunderstanding the definition of consistency. Being consistent means that you do not do all of these things you are attributing to it. It means that you consistently deliver the ball in a controlled, repeatable fashion on every shot. It means you consistently adjust to conditions. It means you are constant in producing the desired results.

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