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#199683 - 09/16/18 01:55 PM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
Dennis Michael Offline
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My new center does an Ebonite demo once a month in season. Storm was a couple times, no more.

Motive is a big seller there.
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#199684 - 09/16/18 03:26 PM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
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MY center Brunswick Zone in Lilburn also has an Ebonite DEMO on September 29. They will be back to back weekends. The Storm is at a Stars and Strikes the following weekend. I am not looking to buy a ball but I like to go to DEMOS to evaluate what the brands have to offer. I will probably do both.


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#199685 - 09/16/18 05:00 PM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know if bowling ball manufacturers actually have any performance data that 'proves' new equipment is any better than old equipment?

Assuming a ball's surface and specifications are the same as something else that's already on the market, exactly what are bowlers expecting from the same balls with a different names?

What was it that Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result?

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#199687 - 09/18/18 01:40 AM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
Dennis Michael Offline
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Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”


Edited by Dennis Michael (09/18/18 01:40 AM)
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#199688 - 09/18/18 01:52 AM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I think that's what bowlers do when they buy new balls. There hasn't been any new technological break-throughs, so all the new balls are just the same as the old balls with new names, not new performance.

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#199689 - 09/18/18 08:46 AM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
Dennis Michael Offline
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that's why my balls are 6-10 years old. Can't find another one to beat them.

I found a good mix and I stay with them.

Good cleaning and a refinish and they have been good as new. And, Lane Master balls don't absorb oil like most.

I contend that the thin covers allow oil to soak into the filler material. And, no matter what you do, it won't come out. The balls don't roll the same as new, and can't be refinished. So, you have to buy new.

All of mine are solid resins with no filler. They don't soak up oil.


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#199697 - 09/23/18 10:56 AM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”
Yep INSANITY can apply to bowling. I do the same thing over and over again and expecting strikes but get anything but.
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#199711 - 10/08/18 10:27 PM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
wronghander Offline
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Originally Posted By: BOSStull
MY center Brunswick Zone in Lilburn also has an Ebonite DEMO on September 29. They will be back to back weekends. The Storm is at a Stars and Strikes the following weekend. I am not looking to buy a ball but I like to go to DEMOS to evaluate what the brands have to offer. I will probably do both.

Get anything out of this? Got an opportunity to go to an EBI Demo myself but it's an hour away so not sure if it will be worth it. But I've had success with their stuff before (4 of my 6 honor scores have come with EBI balls). The Precision and Scandal/S are two balls in particular I am considering based on the reviews they got from BTM.
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#199716 - 10/11/18 05:44 AM Re: Storm/Roto Grip MatchMaker Live [Re: BOSStull]
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I did not make the EBI Demo. I ended up having to work the weekend. I am going to try the next EBI at another center when it comes. I really wanted to do the BOWLER ID if nothing else.

I did attend the Storm Demo last Sunday.
The Storm Demo was different then the last few. Instead of a typical house shot there as a lot of oil across the lanes. On the second shift I ended up using the HALO to break the pattern down. Once broken down all the balls did well especially the Physics.
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