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#199134 - 02/24/18 05:47 PM advice needed for my son's first ball
Jason_C Offline
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My son recently got his first bowling ball and he is looking to get it drilled finger tip and learn to throw a hook with the ball. I got him the Storm Tropical. Nothing too strong. But I am wondering, with a kid learning to throw a hook is he better off with pin down so that it hooks a little sooner or pin up to perhaps retain some energy? Anyone have advice? My usual guy is not available for a while because he has some tourneys coming up that he is preparing for. He is hoping to repeat another successful year on the PBA50 I believe. So I want to make sure I have some of my own ideas when I go in to the Pro Shop operator that we are using.

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#199136 - 02/24/18 06:07 PM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
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Without much information go on, here's what I recommend; If you can afford a $50 lesson, have him get some instruction on how to correctly throw a bowling ball. I say this because, any bad habits he creates now will stick with him a lifetime if he's not careful.

Kids get frustrated quick and lose interest if they can't do something well right away. Their ball should be about 1/10 of their body weight. If they try to break this rule, they'll almost certainly develop bad habits to learn how to throw it.

Here's my biggie. Have him learn to throw 2-handed.

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#199139 - 02/25/18 10:31 AM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
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There are Junior leagues all around. And, some have instruction with them. Find one near you. Most have USBC certified coaches to help.

if your son has any consistency in his release, I would go with pin up. give him some room on the lane to learn to hook. A down and in shot is not where the sport is going. So, get him to learn how to exit an oil pattern to take advantage of friction on the outside.
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#199149 - 02/26/18 12:05 PM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
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I recommend drilling pin down and with a surface and drilling (combined - thank you 82) to make the hook as progressive and smooth as possible.

A late flip/hook is harder to control, and thus harder to learn with.

A nice, smooth, progressive arc is easier to control and to predict and, thus, easier to figure out.
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#199153 - 02/28/18 04:52 AM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
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I agree with mmalsed on the arc. But, that does not mean the pin placement.

It has more to do with the internal core of the ball. A symmetrical core will have an arc vs an asymmetrical core that may flip/hook.
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#199155 - 02/28/18 08:00 AM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
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I appreciate all the advice guys.. Keep it coming... My son says he wants to learn to throw it like me (lay it down at about 18 out to around 3-5. I had to explain to him that he does NOT want to copy my mechanics because it took me a while to adjust to having Rheumatoid Arthritis and a failed Spinal Fusion. The only reason I throw such a big hook is because I don't throw as hard as I used to and I still have a rev rate around 400. He looked confused...lol

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#199158 - 02/28/18 12:03 PM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Jason_C]
Dennis Michael Offline
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So, he scheduled an arthritic implant and a failed operation???

Sure, hope not.
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#199159 - 02/28/18 03:47 PM Re: advice needed for my son's first ball [Re: Dennis Michael]
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That makes two of us that hope not...I never want him to feel like this..

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