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#198724 - 12/20/17 12:26 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
Dylan585 Offline
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This thread made me want to throw my urethane all night instead of my usual plan lol... But in hindsight I should have thrown my forza GT the first game
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#198727 - 12/20/17 01:41 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
This thread made me want to throw my urethane all night instead of my usual plan lol... But in hindsight I should have thrown my forza GT the first game

Have you tried the Judge at stock grit of 320 wet sand?
It may be even more smooth and still hit just as hard.
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#198729 - 12/20/17 03:08 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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Originally Posted By: nord
Originally Posted By: Dylan585
This thread made me want to throw my urethane all night instead of my usual plan lol... But in hindsight I should have thrown my forza GT the first game

Have you tried the Judge at stock grit of 320 wet sand?
It may be even more smooth and still hit just as hard.


I usually will do 360 abralon which is close but didn't have time to get an even 360 on it last night
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#198730 - 12/20/17 04:09 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
Originally Posted By: nord
Originally Posted By: Dylan585
This thread made me want to throw my urethane all night instead of my usual plan lol... But in hindsight I should have thrown my forza GT the first game

Have you tried the Judge at stock grit of 320 wet sand?
It may be even more smooth and still hit just as hard.


I usually will do 360 abralon which is close but didn't have time to get an even 360 on it last night

Stock is 320 grit wet sand.
Try it at 320 grit, I think you will be surprised.
Just go to the hardware store and pick up some 320 grit wet sand paper.
Wet the paper and ball and then spin the ball in a spinner to put the grooves back in the ball like this:



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Edited by nord (12/20/17 04:13 PM)
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#198731 - 12/20/17 09:19 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
Dennis, what type of bowler are you? Like rev rate and track?


Well, a horrible one now, hahaha. IMO.

Was ABC member in the 70's. Bowled tournaments around the Midwest.

Took off 26 years to raise kids. Restarted in '05. It's been a struggle.
2 slide knee operations later, and I'm still learning how to balance.

I'd call myself a Power Stroker. Get about 300+ revs, when I do it right. And, lately, that has been rare. I'm just getting older and have to face it. The body just doesn't do what it used to. My speed has slowed alot, and I have too many revs for a house shot at that speed.

In the last 5 years, I have dropped from 211 to 180. And, it's killing me. All since my operations.
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#198732 - 12/20/17 10:49 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I feel ya with the slide knee issue... No surgery for me yet but I have three major issues with it... Just gotta find a way that works for you... Its part of the reason I'm two handed now... But with the rev rate you have and what I'm guessing is lack of speed urethane really doesn't seem to be the best choice
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#198735 - 12/21/17 11:35 AM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
...But with the rev rate you have and what I'm guessing is lack of speed urethane really doesn't seem to be the best choice

Why would urethane not be the best choice for a rev dominant player?
Better tell Jesper to start using reactive then. wink
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#198738 - 12/21/17 01:28 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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Originally Posted By: nord
Originally Posted By: Dylan585
...But with the rev rate you have and what I'm guessing is lack of speed urethane really doesn't seem to be the best choice

Why would urethane not be the best choice for a rev dominant player?
Better tell Jesper to start using reactive then. wink



Ive got no issue with the rev dominant! I think you just need to have a fairly decent ball speed to match when throwing urethane
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#198742 - 12/22/17 01:49 AM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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My former speed was clocked at 17+. Now, I can barely get 13.

And, that makes a huge difference in the ball reaction. I will not use asymmetrical core balls, as they are too erratic with my release. I try to stay with balls with High RG, 2.58 or more. And, Differential of .032 or close.

That compensates for lack of speed with added length. And, provides a smoother arc rather then a radical snap. both are more controllable at my slower speed.

the major difference I find in my game is the difficulty in getting strikes, especially strings. And, that's balance and timing.

I am hoping a Urethane can be added to my arsenal as an option when lane conditions dictate.
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#198743 - 12/22/17 01:54 AM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I recently picked up a motiv tank rampage and am loving it! And it still has a lefty layout... Has a lot of uumpf for a urethane
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