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#198614 - 12/06/17 06:34 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
Dylan585 Offline
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If you ever are looking to get rid of your judge you know who to talk too!!!!!
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#198615 - 12/06/17 07:10 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
If you ever are looking to get rid of your judge you know who to talk too!!!!!


Ok. I will remember,
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#198627 - 12/08/17 06:26 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
How would you say it compares to the judge?

The Widow Urethane is a thousand times stronger! Lol
But seriously, on heavier oiled lane conditions, like the real heavy oil at Kearny that you see in my Widow Urethane demonstration video, the Judge would be little more than a spare ball.
I know because I have tried the Judge at Kearny and after two throws it is super saturated and will not even grab the lane at all.
The Widow Urethane, as you can see, just rolls through that soup and carries.
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#198628 - 12/08/17 08:36 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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I might have to pick one up... I'm really curious to see how it rolls two handed
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#198637 - 12/09/17 01:59 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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Originally Posted By: Dylan585
I might have to pick one up... I'm really curious to see how it rolls two handed


If Jesper Svensson's frequent use of urethane is any indication, you should like it.
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#198638 - 12/09/17 04:49 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Richie V.]
Dylan585 Offline
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I already throw almost entirely urethane! Just the new age strong ones make me nervous
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#198641 - 12/09/17 10:57 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Dylan585]
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I haven't touched any reactive the last two weeks of league and have no intent to until my center decides to change to a higher volume and/or longer pattern again. I am very curious about the Black Widow too, however the one asymmetric ball I owned gave me a fishy reaction. Also, I really like how my Turbo works as a sanded urethane ball.

Mark
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#198645 - 12/10/17 11:18 AM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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It's the ultimate irony that discussions like this, and many others I've heard at league, come at a time when the USBC is reviewing rolling back ball performance in one way or another.
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#198646 - 12/10/17 11:32 AM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: nord]
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Yep, even the Black Widow Urethane would exceed proposed DIFF specs.
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#198650 - 12/10/17 08:46 PM Re: Hammer "Black Widow Urethane" [Re: Mkirchie]
nord Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mkirchie
I am very curious about the Black Widow too, however the one asymmetric ball I owned gave me a fishy reaction.Mark
The Widow is the least "Fishy" ball I have every thrown.
Watch my test video and see how smooth and controlled it is.
No backend trouble with this ball. It just stays on target.
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