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#197131 - 04/03/17 08:57 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships ***** [Re: champ]
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Goobee, 573 in team is very solid. Good bowling. We'd all love a recap.
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#197133 - 04/04/17 01:22 AM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: champ]
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Based on my poor experience with last year's practice lanes, I was going to skip it this year. My team consisting of 4 first timers who really wanted to practice so I obliged them. Again, the practice lanes were nothing like the actual conditions. I recommend skipping the practice lanes as they are expensive and do nothing to help you form your strategies.

Team Pattern:

Unless you have a lot of hand and ball speed (neither of which I possess), deep inside lines are very tough to play. Most of my shots immediately wanted to move left as soon as it left my hand. I tried standing at 30 and 35 boards and it took extreme effort to get the ball out. Many shots immediately took off and headed to the 7-pin. When I did get it out far enough, there was no energy left when it struck the pocket.

Outside, I played with 7, 8, 9 & 10 boards with varying results. More often or not, it looked like I was in the pocket but I was leaving 4 pins. Obviously the entry angle was incorrect. 6 board I think was the shot but I couldn't consistently hit it. Any misses right of 6 board, you were in no man's land, the ball would not recover.

I settled with a shallow inside line, standing 20 and targeting 15. I used my Motiv Rebel Tank which is a modern pearl urethane. It gave me just enough tail movement to finish in the pocket and leave easy spares. Strikes were hard to come by, in 3 games, I believe I had 9 or so strikes. I picked up most of my spares, with only 1 open in each game.

Doubles and Singles:

You are only given 6 minutes practice so I tried as many lines as possible.

I first tried using the Rebel Tank and shallow inside line from the day before which I had some success with. No deal. Where I had a 5 board tail before, the ball just slid all the way down. I changed to a reactive ball and it went through the nose. I moved further inside and I moved outside as well. 6 minutes expired and I still did not have a plan.

From the outside, my ball would not finish. Either I didn't have enough surface or my low rev was the problem. Moving right and trying to angle the ball in would result in the ball going through the nose.

Inside, it was inconsistent. At one point, I threw 6 shots in a row solid in the pocket with only two strikes (3 ten pins and a 9 pin leaves). I tried moving my feet to fine tune and lost the shot completely after a while.

Spares were insanely hard to pick up, especially the left side. Left of 5 pin, balls took off like a scalded dog.

When I wasn't missing easy spares, I was getting killed by splits and washouts. Over/under was my enemy. I ended the day confused and abused by the shot.

Before leaving, I talked to one of the Storm reps. Her recommendation was a strong ball with surface (500) and playing outside for Doubles/Singles. Of course, she was also recommending her balls to accomplish this.
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#197134 - 04/04/17 11:09 AM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: goobee]
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Originally Posted By: goobee
Getting ready to check out and leave Vegas. Day 1 I did OK, posted a 573 in team. Day 2 was horrible, not worth mentioning. I found the team pattern not as hard as doubles/singles, go figure. I'll post more information if anyone is interested after I get home tonight. Note: You are repeatedly warned both verbally and in print about the no video taping policy which I found annoying.


Looking forward to reading your take on the conditions. I am following a thread on /r/bowling on Reddit. There are a bunch of people who are posting what they are seeing. After looking there and from takes I've seen on FB, it looks like it is playing somewhat outside with controlled equipment. I was going back and forth with John Brockland. I mentioned getting the balls I listed above and he thought something more mid-ranged is going to work the best. Or, a strong ball with a weaker drilling.

I've seen a lot of posts about the warnings about taping. It's complete BS if you ask me. I want to start taking pictures of all of the staff out there smile
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#197137 - 04/04/17 08:53 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: General Pounder]
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Originally Posted By: General Pounder

I've seen a lot of posts about the warnings about taping. It's complete BS if you ask me. I want to start taking pictures of all of the staff out there smile


I don't know if only team captains, or every participant gets an end of tournament survey, but I hope everyone who gets one, lets USBC know what a boneheaded rule change and policy this is.

I know I'll be getting a survey, and I look forward to eviscerating them on the issue.
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#197139 - 04/05/17 11:45 AM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: champ]
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I didn't get one for last year. . . smirk
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#197161 - 04/08/17 05:12 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: champ]
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Junior Team USA Support 1 is bowling the team event tonight at 5:30. Vegas time. If you're as much of a nerd as me, you might want to follow the live scoring found here: http://southpoint.meriq.com/southpointplaza/

These guys are always great to follow along with. I'm sure they'll take the lead in something before the weekend is over.
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#197166 - 04/09/17 11:47 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: champ]
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Well, that certainly didn't turn out the way I thought it would.

Next big team up is Team NABR. They bowl the 13th and 14th.

I'll be getting there on Saturday. Plan to bowl a couple squads of the Bowlers Journal on Sunday, and then the tournament proper on Monday and Tuesday the 17th and 18th.
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#197175 - 04/10/17 05:00 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: General Pounder]
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Originally Posted By: General Pounder
Originally Posted By: goobee
Getting ready to check out and leave Vegas. Day 1 I did OK, posted a 573 in team. Day 2 was horrible, not worth mentioning. I found the team pattern not as hard as doubles/singles, go figure. I'll post more information if anyone is interested after I get home tonight. Note: You are repeatedly warned both verbally and in print about the no video taping policy which I found annoying.


Looking forward to reading your take on the conditions. I am following a thread on /r/bowling on Reddit. There are a bunch of people who are posting what they are seeing. After looking there and from takes I've seen on FB, it looks like it is playing somewhat outside with controlled equipment. I was going back and forth with John Brockland. I mentioned getting the balls I listed above and he thought something more mid-ranged is going to work the best. Or, a strong ball with a weaker drilling.

I've seen a lot of posts about the warnings about taping. It's complete BS if you ask me. I want to start taking pictures of all of the staff out there smile


taping what? what are these warnungs?

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#197176 - 04/10/17 09:11 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: rrb6699 (RayRay)]
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Originally Posted By: rrb6699 (RayRay) [/quote


taping what? what are these warnungs?

rr


With some strict exceptions, we the bowler (aka paying customer) are not permitted to record bowling on the lanes, in protection of the super secret lane pattern.
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#197177 - 04/10/17 09:23 PM Re: 2017 USBC Open Championships [Re: champ]
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The warnings are in the printed materials handed out to partipants, posted on the walls of the venue and spoken as an admonishment during the squad room presentation. Violators will be asked to leave, both players and spectators. Pretty harsh if you ask me.
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Secondary

15lbs Blend10 OSW
15lbs Motiv Venom Panic
15lbs Motiv Rebel Tank

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