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#197334 - 04/26/17 11:08 AM Loving the sport patterns
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We are just finishing up our sports league next week. We started last year with teams, and then went to doubles as our participants dwindled. The Fall/Winter was transformed into doubles, which has been a ton of fun for everyone involved, all ten of us LOL

Our final test next Tuesday is the flat 40" US Open pattern. Heard it's a doozy
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#197335 - 04/26/17 01:01 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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Do some find it harder to adjust to a sport pattern than others?
Or do you all find it about the same?
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#197339 - 04/26/17 03:47 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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I started a sport league seven years ago. We have about 10-15 regulars, and about that many who come out to try it on occasion, and few who bowl a couple of nights to "prepare" for Nationals. Our league is singles. It's eight weeks long, and you need six scores to qualify for the year end prize of a new ball of choice, for season high average. We changed it a little this year to keep people interested til the end by using your top six scores. Meaning you can throw two out if you come every week, and it makes it harder for people to really predict who's ahead. We also pay out high series and game for the night, and have a bracket, as well. I've found that more people will at least try it when it's singles... no commitment to a team, etc. Those of us that have done it, like it, it's really a challenge, and shows you how much the oil pattern affects scores. We've had a number of bowlers try it, and never come back. Ha! I've also had a couple that quit after the first three games... ego couldn't handle it.
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#197340 - 04/26/17 05:26 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: W9JAB]
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[quote=W9JAB]Do some find it harder to adjust to a sport pattern than others?
Or do you all find it about the same? [/quote

A lot harder. On house shots it's pretty easy, since typically you only need to hit an area. On many sport shots a single board can determine your future. The short ones like Cheetah really get to me.
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#197341 - 04/26/17 09:52 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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We had many that tried on season and left Trekguy. The egos can be enormous. Take a 230 bowler down to 170 and watch him cry wink
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#197343 - 04/27/17 12:39 AM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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I vastly prefer sport bowling myself. When I lived in Tucson I bowled a few seasons in a duos league that bowled on eight different patterns for four weeks each. Yes, there's a lot of frustration when the wheels fall off, but there's so much satisfaction in bowling well that it overrides the bad nights.

Now that I live in a much smaller town, with very little interest among the local bowlers in a sport league, the only time I see the tougher stuff is at nationals. That makes it all the harder, but like Tom Hanks said, in a league of their own, "the hard is what makes it great."
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#197353 - 04/28/17 12:12 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: champ]
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I'm in a senior league, we don't get any warm/practice up balls.So that got me thinking.
A mystery pattern, start cold and figure it out as you go
could be interesting. brickwall
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#197364 - 04/29/17 11:47 AM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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The real problem with today's Pattern fixation, is that the vast majority of amateurs can't read the pattern anyway. It sure helps out many with preparation, getting the right balls and surface. But beyond that, they all play different. On any given night, they play different in the same center. Time of year makes a huge difference too.

I think the easiest pattern to deal with is the flat pattern. Toy around with your line and angle, and that's about it.

I'm considering taking my Crux down to 500 grit for next week's US Open pattern. It's my only ball capable really. But to do that, I need to start with my lowest grit. Not sure the ball will ever be the same after I do that.
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#197366 - 04/29/17 01:50 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: SteveH]
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Over the last 10-15 years, those who can really rev-up their balls have begun to dominate the sport. Worse yet, typical house shots play into that strength.

Flat oil patterns bring spare shooting back into the scenario. Out of bounds inside and outside guarantee even the big 'hand' players are going to shoot a few spares. Some aren't very good at it.

Making golf courses longer didn't solve anything. making fairways narrower would.

The decision to make oil patterns that were illegal 40-50 years ago legal today hasn't been good for bowling. Where I bowl, everyone would rather have a pseudo-200+ average than a real 190 average.

Everyone would rather complain about bad conditions than spend the time 'actually' becoming a better bowler.

From an economics standpoint, it's cheaper and faster to buy a new ball then take the time to bowl the necessary games to get better.

The problem, centers can only be profitable if they can keep their lanes busy. What's killing the sport, is the sport itself.
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#197371 - 04/30/17 12:26 PM Re: Loving the sport patterns [Re: 82Boat69]
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82Boat69,
You sounded a bit hostel toward the end of your post, rotfl
And I agree you can buy a ball for every Scenario but that's a lot of balls ball ball ball ball ball ball
I know most tournaments limit the number of ball you can bring in.
But what interested me the most is
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oil patterns that were illegal 40-50 years ago legal today

Could you elaborate on that.
I'm interested in Bowling History.
In fact I have read that oil was "stopped"
on the back end not for hooking the ball,
but due to the installation of the modern pin setters,
the oil all the way to the end was interfering with the machines.
Stopping the oil about 20 from the end allowed less oil into the pinsetters.
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