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#196985 - 03/17/17 12:16 AM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: W9JAB]
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I've never tried it myself but had a girlfriend once who averaged in the high 170's using that technique.

For me spinning a ball counter clockwise while throwing to my right would be really tough. I'm not sure my wrist could take the torque :-)
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#196987 - 03/17/17 10:59 AM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: 82Boat69]
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82Boat69,
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I'm not sure my wrist could take the torque :-)


The technique is not in the wrist, But the arm and spinning it off your thumb, and going for the head pin.

You put the thumb down thumbsdown and wave the ball by-by with your fingers. nut

It's different but you can get a lot of (mix master) pin action, down side is your can leave some big splits as well.
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#196988 - 03/17/17 11:54 AM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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Ok guys - we're side-tracking the thread away from someone who legitimately wants to try two-handed bowling.
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#196990 - 03/17/17 05:29 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: mmalsed]
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#196991 - 03/17/17 11:48 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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Getting back on track

This is a link to Logan Fossum , He is a 13 year old who is a very good one handed bowler, he has a 200+ ave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O43J9Kv-zI8

Logan has his own YouTube channel, I have seen him bowling for about two years.

The take away hear is watch what an effort is needed to launch a two handed shot, a lot more than a one handed player, I believe even more that some of the power players out there.

The point is I don't believe you can have a smooth relaxed game two handed, it just takes too much energy, or too much buck for the bang.
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#196999 - 03/19/17 07:20 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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Wow that kid has a very nice throw. Would this be considered medium or high rev? I'd think upper medium or something?

If i could throw a ball like that, i'd never even consider going two handed. Do you need any strength in the wrist to do this? He's 13 and he doesn't look exceptionally strong for his age, but i did read you need some wrist strength to do it correctly? He also says in some of his movies that he throws effortlessly, but he is sweating badly when playing

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#197017 - 03/21/17 12:15 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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Didn't that video have him bowling two-handed?

Yes, it's more physically demanding. But for a 24 year old, that should not be a big deal.

It also does not take the wrist or hand strength that one-handed bowling does. I've tried it with a house ball and my white-dot and if my knee and back were what they were back 20 years ago, I might have run with it. Now? LOL. No. But that's NOT to say that it's not a good style.

As for sweating - I sweat bowling one-handed. We have a two-hander in my league that barely sweats.


Here's the deal - only YOU can see if it will work for you. It will take WORK. Grab the videos that break it down - here's a very good one that examines the elements of both Belmonte and Osku.



There will always be people like W9 who will try to persuade you to do things the traditional way.

But what's most important is that you do what's best for YOU.

If your thumb prevents you from releasing it properly one-handed, then you need to try something else.

Just because two-handed bowling isn't the "norm" doesn't mean ANYTHING.

Remember, bowling balls used to have, as the "norm" only TWO holes (gasp) and made of WOOD. Can you IMAGINE the rebellion when a third hole was added? And rubber? Oh the heresy.

How about plastic/polyester. . . and a separate and non-round core. Then weight holes. And Eurethane. Synthetic lanes were a huge issue not even 20-25 years ago (I VASTLY preferred wood) and then computerized lane machines.

Bowling is evolving - always has, even 3000 years ago. As with any sport, there will be those that want to keep things the same as they always were (wood bats vs aluminum? aluminium? LOL) and there will be those who want to push evolution as fast as it can go.

All this said, get the ball down the lane and make it hit pins. If you have to do that granny style, through your legs and making it spin like a helicopter - then do that. (but I want video! LOL)

If you can do so comfortably one-handed, then awesome, do that!

But if you feel a need OR DESIRE to bowl two-handed, then try that! I would be happy to critique your video and give you as much constructive criticism as I can.
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#197018 - 03/21/17 12:29 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: mmalsed]
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Hey,

yes indeed that video had him bowling 2 handed, but i took the liberty of watching his other videos too. There he states he throws the ball effortlessly but to me it doesn't seem like he is, judging from his motions and the way he is sweating, but that could be just me.

anyway, it not that i want to bowl 2 handed at the cost of anything. I just want more ball action and i don't seem to be getting it with thumb in. I'm willing to try anything, 1 handed thumb in or 2 handed as long as i can get a more fluid throw and generate some more power. It's just that i tried 1 handed before and it doesn't seem to be working for me, i can generate revs when releasing the ball into a cushion, but i can't seem to do it in a complete throw. I must be doing something terribly wrong somewhere and i will probably make the same mistakes bowling 2 handed, but 2 handed it's almost impossible not to generate some decent revs.

So that's why

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#197021 - 03/21/17 02:16 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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Right - with 2-handed, your focus actually needs to be projecting the ball down the lane and getting ball speed (and, of course, getting a plastic ball to pick up your 6 and 10 pins. . . LOL)

(oh - one additional reason should be - because it's fun! That's what I get from the 2-handers at my bowling center. smile Best reason there is!)
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#197022 - 03/21/17 02:28 PM Re: 2 handed bolwing [Re: spectral]
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There will always be people like W9 who will try to persuade you to do things the traditional way.


Hay, don't get me wrong, stop

I'm for what ever it takes to knock down pins. thumbsup

And I've tried just about every way you can think of. seeingstars
I did two handed,one hand no thumb,helicopter/U.F.O. spin bowling,suitcase,back up,straight, extreme hook you name it I tried it at least once, but keep coming back to "the traditional way" undecided
I just feel their is no short cut to a good repeatable form, and hitting your mark. love

Oh ya, by the way Logan is one heck of a bowler, I would not be surprised to see him on the pro circuit some day soon.
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