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#195172 - 09/23/16 04:05 PM Approach
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Here is my approach. Critiquing allowed



https://youtu.be/aanQV_zZya4

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#195174 - 09/23/16 04:20 PM Re: Approach [Re: RGR]
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It's private. Can you make it public?

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#195175 - 09/23/16 04:30 PM Re: Approach [Re: 82Boat69]
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I'll see what I can do

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#195176 - 09/23/16 04:34 PM Re: Approach [Re: 82Boat69]
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It says it is public

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#195177 - 09/23/16 05:36 PM Re: Approach [Re: RGR]
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When I sign in, it simply says this video is private and adds "Sorry about that." Has anyone else been able to view it?

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#195180 - 09/23/16 06:15 PM Re: Approach [Re: 82Boat69]
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I'll find out

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#195189 - 09/24/16 03:38 PM Re: Approach [Re: 82Boat69]
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Try that video again, think it might work

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#195190 - 09/24/16 07:30 PM Re: Approach [Re: RGR]
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RGR, Noticed that you're wearing a Mongoose Lifter. I assume that your wrist is weak as this device helps correct for that especially. Next in your stance your feet appear to be placed equally from the foul line, your not bending much at the waste and your ball is held very low. Take a look at this video from the USBC Bowling Academy: https://www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-technique-proper-arm-swing-006861/

It's recommended that you have a staggered foot position from the start so that your hip is somewhat out of the way when your bowling ball comes down from the backswing. From the video Ron Hoppe shows a swing starting with the ball pretty much from his waste. His forearm is parallel to the lane's approach and his swing is very relaxed.
I watched your footwork and your steps appear quite short. Also, when you're to the point that your ball reaches the release point, you plant your slide foot without nary a slide. It would save your knee on your slide leg (left leg) and give you a much smoother approach to the lane if you'd slide at least a little bit. Very likely your second step should be much longer than what it is now.
Here's another video to take a look at: https://www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/proper-bowling-arm-swing-005529/

Your ball is pretty low in your stance and it's positioned out to the right a bit in your video. It's recommended that the ball be positioned somewhere between your chin and the shoulder joint, not necessarily outside of it.

Hope this helps...


Edited by djp1080 (09/24/16 07:32 PM)

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#195191 - 09/24/16 07:37 PM Re: Approach [Re: djp1080]
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Speaking of Mongoose, the owner, Steve Adams and I bowl on a Senior Scratch Trios team on Tuesdays. I own a Robby's that he hasn't seen yet :-)

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#195192 - 09/24/16 08:08 PM Re: Approach [Re: RGR]
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There's nothing seriously wrong with your approach. Here are some observations and food for thought. I'll list each observation then tie them all together.

Starting with your arm straight down is okay but the way you do it is not. If you stop the rear angle video on your first step, you will see 2 things. One, you have no upper body angles. Two, the ball passes your right leg going inside out.

Step 2 should be directly in front of step 1. Since this doesn't take place, your finishing position at the foul line will be right of where it should be.

As your ball comes back forward, because it was started inside-out, it remains out and then come back down outside-in causing your shot to also be outside-in. The Brooklyn hit could be expected from just watching the first 2 steps.

All of your movements seemed a little bit mechanical. This can be caused by being in front of a camera, or the reasons are more likely that having no upper body angles, you can't get into a athletic position for the final delivery.

Okay, here's how to tie it all back together to get you in a more relaxed athletic position at the point of release.

If you start with your left foot slightly ahead of your right foot, this will open up the front of your upper body before you ever take a step.

Not only should your upper body be angled slightly to the right, your upper body should also be bent forward slightly. The result of these 2 upper body angles are to allow the ball to fall straight back under your right shoulder on a slight outside-in line.

Here are 3 videos to show you how to practice the correct upper body angles.

http://bowlingknowledge.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=229

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NhM3tights&index=3&list=PL067F4774D3519BC8

http://bowlingknowledge.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=229

Your ball should not pass your body coming back until your second step is almost complete and in-line with your first step. This simple rule is what allows your ball to clear your body on an outside-in line coming back. Failure to clear the right leg forces the ball out to the right going back which will force the ball outside-in coming forward.

In real-estate, the 3 rules are location, location, location. In bowling, the 3 rules are relax, relax, relax.

Proper body angles and a relaxed starting position will allow the ball to fall directly backward in a nice relaxed swing slot. done properly, your head will be over your swing slot line. In your current approach, your head is nowhere near your swing line.

Stay relaxed as the ball goes backward and comes forward. Allow the ball to swing freely, don't throw it. The only time you need to do anything is to add a little extra impetus on the ball after your thumb has cleared.

Too often those who start with their arm straight down, lock that arm and do not allow it to relax. That means everything during that arm-swing will be restricted by tight muscles. Relax your hand and that will relax your wrist which will relax your forearm which will relax your elbow, upper-arm and shoulder.

Done properly, you will get more speed, more RPM's, throw more accurately with less effort.

Good Luck!

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