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#184958 - 02/07/14 05:00 PM Help with unknown Rhino
Igor Lopes Offline
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Hey guys. Do you know what Rhino is this? I've heard it's urethane but I don't know.
I'm thinking about getting a urethane ball and this (or the grey rhino which I'm pretty sure it's urethane) may be my choice.



(These aren't pics of the ball I'm looking at, but it's just like this one)
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#184969 - 02/08/14 08:07 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Igor Lopes]
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At first glance, it looks like one of the following balls:
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/6662/Rhino-Pro-Purple.html
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/3799/Rhino-RE-Desert-Sky.html

But, a closer look at the label suggests it could be the following ball, which is urethane:
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/3838/Rhino-Cobalt-Blue.html

Note that these balls are not even on Brunswick website's retired balls list any more. If you are looking for a mild reaction, any of the above would probably do.
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#184970 - 02/08/14 08:36 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Joe Bowler]
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I kinda thought "wine Rhino" (urethane) but unsure.
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#184971 - 02/08/14 09:05 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Igor Lopes]
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The following old thread may have some additional info:
http://www. ball reviews .com/brunswick/late-80s-to-mid-90s-brunswick-equipment-t261196.0.html
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#184972 - 02/08/14 09:40 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Igor Lopes]
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It's definitely not a Rhino Pro, and I wouldn't say it's a Wine Rhino because of the logo color.
I think I'll pass this one and try to get the Grey Rhino. I'm looking for a Urethane ball to throw to the first board on tough conditions, but I can't find a newer one for a better price.

Do you think it's worth getting an old piece (like the Grey) instead?
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#184975 - 02/08/14 10:58 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Igor Lopes]
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My first choice for a urethane ball would be a Storm Natural Pearl or Super Natural for their modern dynamic core and updated urethane formula. You should be able to find one new online under $100.
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#184976 - 02/08/14 11:18 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Igor Lopes]
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Yeah, upon further review I wouldn't be surprised if the ball in the picture was plastic.

I seem to recall the grey Rhino was a fairly strong urethane ball "back in the day". I haven't rolled any old urethanes for quite a long time. My sense of things is that, while back in the 80's a Black Rhino might have seemed quite different from a Gray or Gold Rhino, when measured against today's conditions I expect the differences between them would be more subtle. My last old-school urethane was a Blue Pearl Hammer (Faball), I loved it back then but I think today it would be closer to a plastic ball in performance, but the solids... IMO, pretty similar to each other.

I rarely if ever get my Storm Natural out these days, prefer to move inside and chase the oil line in with a reactive but your lane conditions could be far different.


Edited by RickSchott (02/08/14 11:20 AM)
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#184978 - 02/08/14 11:35 AM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: 56bird]
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Originally Posted By: RickSchott
I rarely if ever get my Storm Natural out these days, prefer to move inside and chase the oil line in with a reactive but your lane conditions could be far different.

One of the lane conditions where a urethane ball helps is when you make the move inside to chase the oil line with your reactive ball only to find there is no more oil/hold in the middle, and instead it hooks more. The urethane ball will allow you to move further outside to get the ball down the lane without overreacting to the friction. Sometimes, it is the result of depletion, but more often it is just the nature of bowling on a shorter pattern, with lighter oil, on a high friction surface (ex: wood).
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#184983 - 02/08/14 03:03 PM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Joe Bowler]
Igor Lopes Offline
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Originally Posted By: Joe Bowler
One of the lane conditions where a urethane ball helps is when you make the move inside to chase the oil line with your reactive ball only to find there is no more oil/hold in the middle, and instead it hooks more. The urethane ball will allow you to move further outside to get the ball down the lane without overreacting to the friction. Sometimes, it is the result of depletion, but more often it is just the nature of bowling on a shorter pattern, with lighter oil, on a high friction surface (ex: wood).


Yup. I bowl a lot on shorter sport patterns and I miss a urethane ball to use the extreme outside of the pattern to create angle with no fear of wet/dry.
The problem is, here where I live a brand new bowling ball costs a whole salary (because of shipping and taxes) and I'm just a student. It would take years to get one.
That's why I really don't know if I should wait or get the Grey Rhino.
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#198140 - 09/12/17 12:40 PM Re: Help with unknown Rhino [Re: Joe Bowler]
jeff bruce Offline
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Originally Posted By: Joe Bowler
At first glance, it looks like one of the following balls:
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/6662/Rhino-Pro-Purple.html
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/3799/Rhino-RE-Desert-Sky.html

But, a closer look at the label suggests it could be the following ball, which is urethane:
http://www.bowlingball.com/products/bowling-balls/Brunswick/3838/Rhino-Cobalt-Blue.html

Note that these balls are not even on Brunswick website's retired balls list any more. If you are looking for a mild reaction, any of the above would probably do.


It's none of the above, that's for sure. Not an old Wine from 1986 either. It's a plastic Rhino from 1995, white engraving filler! Urethane Rhino's from the late 80's were orange filler. Reactives were lime green filled.

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