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#184898 - 02/04/14 08:33 PM Should I speed up?
coIZIco95 Offline
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I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to improve my game when it comes to speed. I currently bowl at about 10 to 11 mph. I don't have a lot of revs on my ball but I am trying to get more. My average has dropped down a little because I have not bowled much lately to about 140.

I was hoping to get my speed up to get a little more pin action so I stop leaving stupid 10 pins. The main problem I always run into when I want to get my speed up though is my timing gets thrown off and I end up pulling the ball and it just goes to the way left of the lane if not in the gutter. Is there a good way to get my speed up or should I just keep the slow speed I have? Also is there a good way to get my revs up even if I don't increase my speed? Thank you so much for any advice.

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#184902 - 02/04/14 09:55 PM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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Hold your ball higher at presentation.

Develop a push off into your slide, and bend your knee into the slide. Extend your arm.

So you take 4 or 5 steps? Adding a 5th step will gain initial momentum.
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#184912 - 02/05/14 11:00 AM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
Hold your ball higher at presentation.
Develop a push off into your slide, and bend your knee into the slide. Extend your arm.
So you take 4 or 5 steps? Adding a 5th step will gain initial momentum.


I agree here.

Can you take a video and post it in the "videos" section so we can give you a little more personal advice to your game?
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#184913 - 02/05/14 11:49 AM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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I'm not an expert like some of the guys here but it seems like your attempt to generate more ball speed is causing you to walk faster during your approach. This is causing a timing issue, which is the reason your arm is not going where you want it to go.

I don't see an issue with a slow ball speed as long as you are using the correct ball for the lane conditions and the ball still has energy when it hits the pins.

Tell us more about a typical league night. Do you score the best when the lanes have fresh oil? Due to the slow ball speed does your ball over hook when they break down causing your scores to drop and make it difficult to make spares?

One of the first things you should strive for is to develop consistency on the first shot. This should leave easier spares to shoot at. Next on the list is, convert more spares.

Consider buying some books on bowling. I just finished Jowdy's Bowling Execution and Hinitz's Focused on Bowling. These tow books would be a big help to someone looking to improve the physical and mental aspects of bowling.

If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video posted here is worth several pages of practical advice.

Get a friend to help you record a rear view and side view video of your approach and ball as it moves down the lane. It will be helpful if we can see your basic style and what happens when you try to speed things up. Post these on youtube and put the links on the appropriate board. The guys here are very helpful and knowledgeable.

Good luck with improving your bowling scores.
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#184918 - 02/05/14 05:33 PM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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I have a five step approach.

For me it does not matter too much how oily the lanes are. The only thing that changes is where I stand had which ball I throw. I typically like a little dryer lane because I can stand further left and hook the ball a little more into the pocket. When the lanes have fresh oil I throw a straighter ball that typically rolls over the 10 board into the pocket compared to when the lanes are dryer and I throw out to the 5 board.

I have tried to raise my ball higher but found it does not help me that much. I tend to curve the ball behind me even more than what I normally do (yes I know you are not supposed to go behind your back but I am working on it).

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#184919 - 02/05/14 07:34 PM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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Your arm should be in a swing plane once you push off. Push off towards your target and that starts the plane that the ball should follow. If you are curling the ball behind you, chances are you are turning your wrist in, which also accounts for an arm pull.

Keep your hand behind the ball and your fingers under the equator through the swing.

I would bet your push off step into your slide needs work to increase speed.
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#184929 - 02/06/14 11:55 AM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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I find when I am leaving a soft 10, my ball isn't carrying any energy into the pocket.

Would love to see a video, and know what equipment you are throwing. But I would move feet and target two boards right, minimum, to try to get the ball to hit a little higher flush, with a bit more pop.
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#184930 - 02/06/14 01:18 PM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: saabbowler]
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Originally Posted By: saabbowler
I find when I am leaving a soft 10, my ball isn't carrying any energy into the pocket.
Would love to see a video, and know what equipment you are throwing. But I would move feet and target two boards right, minimum, to try to get the ball to hit a little higher flush, with a bit more pop.


This is only true if the ball hasn't been fully entering the roll phase. If the corner pins are caused by the ball rolling out then this move will only increase the issue (moving in the opposite direction would be needed).
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#184936 - 02/06/14 08:01 PM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: coIZIco95]
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When you leave a 10 pin, you have to watch where the 6 pin goes. Either straight in the gutter in front of the 10, or it rings around the 10. Each requires a different move to remedy.
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#184947 - 02/07/14 09:53 AM Re: Should I speed up? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis Michael
When you leave a 10 pin, you have to watch where the 6 pin goes. Either straight in the gutter in front of the 10, or it rings around the 10. Each requires a different move to remedy.


Correct.

If the 6 pin falls in the gutter in front of the 10 pin this is called a "flat 10", "half 10", or "weak 10". The move to eliminate the corner pin is to move your feet a half board towards your ball side (right for righties).

If the 6 pin goes up and around the 10 pin it is referred to as a "ring 10" or "wrap 10". The move to rid the pin is to move your feet about 4-6" back on the approach in your stance.
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