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#184343 - 01/20/14 05:35 PM one throw from TheBigCat...help?
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my buddy grabbed one shot on his phone while we were open bowling...(i remember it wasn't one of my better shots).
i've been bowling for 50 years, but never saw myself bowl before.

i noticed two things i don't like right away, but i've seen some awesome advise here, and with me slumping lately, i could use any help at all...

what i see is i've completely abandoned the use of my balance arm, which i learned before this season began, and was bowling much better then than now. gotta remember that!
and...it looks to me like i'm way too upright. i think i need some knee-bend?
i know my steps are weird...real long 1st step, long 2nd step, but that's just how i've always bowled. don't know if i want to play around with that. my timing and balance are (i think) pretty good.
i'm not horrible now (about a 215/220 bowler...but compete evenly in tournaments with guys whose league average is always higher than mine), but i'm always trying to improve.
thanks in advance, if anyone has any ideas/thoughts/suggestions...
Mark



edit:
was hoping the video would show in the post...not just the link. i guess i don't know how to do that...sorry.
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#184350 - 01/20/14 07:06 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: TheBigCat]
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Originally Posted By: TheBigCat

edit:
was hoping the video would show in the post...not just the link. i guess i don't know how to do that...sorry.
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Don't worry about that. I think it will automatically embed after a few hours.
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#184351 - 01/20/14 07:20 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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Originally Posted By: Calvin Pistorio
Originally Posted By: TheBigCat

edit:
was hoping the video would show in the post...not just the link. i guess i don't know how to do that...sorry.
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Don't worry about that. I think it will automatically embed after a few hours.

thx...hope so...
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#184354 - 01/20/14 07:44 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: TheBigCat]
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Well I'm no coach, but the only thing I notice is what you already mentioned...you're very "tall" through the approach. If you had some knee bend, you'd get the ball onto the lane more cleanly, with more leverage, and your carry percentage would go up.

I suffer from the very same issue. For some reason, despite strength exercises and stretches, I get very little knee bend (I guess I'm just a stiff guy.) If you figure out how to get lower, let me know.
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#184355 - 01/20/14 07:52 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: champ]
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Originally Posted By: champ
Well I'm no coach, but the only thing I notice is what you already mentioned...you're very "tall" through the approach. If you had some knee bend, you'd get the ball onto the lane more cleanly, with more leverage, and your carry percentage would go up.

I suffer from the very same issue. For some reason, despite strength exercises and stretches, I get very little knee bend (I guess I'm just a stiff guy.) If you figure out how to get lower, let me know.


in my case, i'm just old and weak...especially my legs. they're like pencils. gotta do some squats...get back some power that i used to have when i worked out (before i had kids and got tired all the time).
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#184361 - 01/20/14 10:12 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: TheBigCat]
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I agree about using the balance arm, I noticed a huge difference when I focused on correctly using mine since I never knew how to for a long time. I don't have any other advice, but I did notice that mrbowling300 posted the video on youtube for you. I've watched many of the old PBA shows that he has posted and I greatly appreciate being able to see things I never saw or relive the ones that I had seen.

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#184377 - 01/21/14 08:24 AM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: Mkirchie]
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Originally Posted By: Mkirchie
I agree about using the balance arm, I noticed a huge difference when I focused on correctly using mine since I never knew how to for a long time. I don't have any other advice, but I did notice that mrbowling300 posted the video on youtube for you. I've watched many of the old PBA shows that he has posted and I greatly appreciate being able to see things I never saw or relive the ones that I had seen.

Mark


yep...lotsa cool stuff on his website. we were open bowling, and he snagged the vid. of me throwing one ball.
i had a real camera with me, but it was obvious from the first frame that he 'didn't have it' that night, so i never broke out the camera. he's a better bowler than i am...but not that night.
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#184493 - 01/23/14 05:14 PM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: TheBigCat]
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What problems are you having? What i see is that your setup looks real good. Your push away goes outside your right knee too much. You should try to keep the ball inline with your head.Your timing looks real good (as much as I can tell from a back view). Your step looks good. I like the forward tilt and lean going into the slide. During the release your move your head a little to the left (try to keep your head over the ball)and you raise up a little. Try not to get too much fingers into the shot.
Overall looks real good. Anything new or different done to your bowling equipment?
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#184504 - 01/24/14 03:58 AM Re: one throw from TheBigCat...help? [Re: spr3wr]
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Originally Posted By: spr3wr
What problems are you having? What i see is that your setup looks real good. Your push away goes outside your right knee too much. You should try to keep the ball inline with your head.Your timing looks real good (as much as I can tell from a back view). Your step looks good. I like the forward tilt and lean going into the slide. During the release your move your head a little to the left (try to keep your head over the ball)and you raise up a little. Try not to get too much fingers into the shot.
Overall looks real good. Anything new or different done to your bowling equipment?


Hey
thanks!!
not really having any problems...well...a little inconsistent. too many bad games thrown into the mix.
i was just hoping someone would spot some areas in need of work, and you've done that. i really appreciate that!
i see the 'loop' in the push-away you mentioned. i never would have caught that...and it can most definitely cause bad shots, which, naturally, cause bad scores. that will be corrected.
the other tips you mentioned...i like those, too. will be working on them, also.

my equipment doesn't really change much...i go through a lot of bowling balls, but i like fresh stuff, and do well enough that my bowling pretty much pays for itself, equipment included.
you can see that i stick mostly (not 100%) to symetrical, rolly-poly stuff. the C300s are all layed-out just a little bit strong, and the Ebonites just a little weak.

thanks again!!!!!!!
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