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#17027 - 12/29/02 04:32 PM open and closed shoulder
joel Offline
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Registered: 03/22/01
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Hi there, I need to know what it means to
line up with open shoulder or closed. I have
been reading alot about this but actully I
do not understand this. Please help me with
this. bowling joel
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#17028 - 12/30/02 05:18 AM Re: open and closed shoulder
okorimbo Offline
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Registered: 07/27/02
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Opening the shoulders means turning your body slightly to the right ( for a RH bowler) as you are in your stance and continuing as you deliver the ball. Closing the shoulders means a slight turn to the left. Open shoulders will enable you to deliver out and belly the ball quite easily. Closing the shoulders will aid you in throwing a straighter shot with less outside action. This is the simplest explanation I can think of just now.
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#17029 - 12/30/02 02:32 PM Re: open and closed shoulder
joel Offline
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Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 626
A/S/L: morton grove,il
Hi, Doc
Thanks for the reply. Now I understand and
will use this rightaway as I feel just by
your explanation I will do better. Whew I
thought it was something else to think about
and I do enough of that. thanks again
bowling joel
Joel Lipnitzky

#17030 - 01/11/03 11:28 AM Re: open and closed shoulder
joel Offline
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Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 626
A/S/L: morton grove,il
Hi, Doc
This is bowling joel. I tried what
you said about open and closed shoul-
ders. It worked for the turn to the
right but I forgot about the left turn
and I bowled ok but I believe it would
have been better for left hand spares
if I made that turn. I have new ball,
mojo by track 14lbs and have alot of
control but I have not tried the right
turn as yet. Will do that wed night.
thanks again bowling joel
Joel Lipnitzky

#17031 - 01/13/03 06:45 PM Re: open and closed shoulder
joel Offline
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Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 626
A/S/L: morton grove,il
Doc, well I used the open and closed shoulders
thing today in an afternoon league that I sub in.
I used the mojo and shot 215 first game good pocket percentage. Picking up spares on left side
with closed shoulder was ok but could not keep
ball in line long enough to get 10 pin. My ball
hooked a way even when I hit mark. I used a spare
ball but missed also even though it was close.
Overall I did ok game two 176 game three 137.That
was a disaster but I can fix that. Anything else
you can tell me will be appreciated. bowling joel
Joel Lipnitzky

#17032 - 02/02/03 09:52 AM Re: open and closed shoulder
Bowlerski Offline
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Registered: 01/31/03
Posts: 388
A/S/L: 40+/Male/Fremont, Michigan
Hey Joel,

To be honest with you, I wouldn't worry too much about opening, or closing your shoulders from shot to shot, or for one spare over another. The thing to do is find which works best for your game, and perfect that. You will naturally open your shoulders if you are "bellying" your shot, and they will be more closed if you are going up the boards with your shot. One of the things I've learned over the years of bowling and coaching is the K*I*S*S principle. It stands for Keep It Simple Stupid. I'm not refering to you as stupid, as you are obviously a very intelligent person, please don't misunderstand me. What I'm referring to is that the less you try to think about, the easier it is to duplicate your shots, which in turn lead to higher scoring. Instead of thinking of all the things you need to do to make a quality shot while on the approach during your pre-shot checklist, let your sub-concious take over and think "quality shot". Your body knows through muscle memory what it needs to do to make a good shot. Let it do the work for you as it is much stronger than your concious thought process, not to mention quicker. Ever notice how once in a while you may be sending a shot a little wide of target, and you "Magically" hit the shot a little harder to get the ball back, or vise-versa, kill the shot a bit if inside of target, that's your sub-conscious doing the work for you. The biggest thing is to RELAX! It will help your game, and you will have more fun too.
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