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#105460 - 10/16/09 03:19 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: captcrabby]
sk8shorty01 Offline
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Another heavy oil ball, the AMF Mega Friction.

I will trust any ball in oil that has a warning on the coverstock:

"WARNING THIS BALL HOOKS"
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#105473 - 10/16/09 08:22 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: sk8shorty01]
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The best heavy oil ball I have ever thrown is the Visionary Ogre Particle. Feel the surface, and you will understand why.
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#105474 - 10/16/09 08:34 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: Joe Bowler]
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Joe, have you tried that ball on shorter/lighter patterns? It almost seems that it has so much surface that it would roll the same on any pattern, regardless of oil.
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#105477 - 10/16/09 08:57 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: cgeorg]
Joe Bowler Offline
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I have a very aggressive layout on the ball...30 to VAL, 3-3/8 PAP to Pin, 5-1/2 PAP to MB, 6-3/4 Pin to Balance Hole. I have not tried it on a shorter PBA pattern, but would expect it to either roll out half way up the lane (due to surface), or be nearly impossible to control the breakpoint (due to layout).

Where I bowl league on a THS shot, before they started skimping on oil, I was able to stand 35, swing 15 to about 5 and back and score with it, but it would not be my first choice for league or other competition.

I am currently bowling on Shark in my PBA Experience league, and am finding success using the Ogre Particle standing around 26, playing tight around 13 out to about 10 and back. With any other ball in my arsenal, I would have to point it straight at the pocket.




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#105506 - 10/17/09 02:56 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: Joe Bowler]
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I am thinking about conditions like the tournament I was in early last month, where people were even hooking plastic off the lanes. The issue I had was that when I would kill my equipment, it might grab the lane anywhere between 5 feet and 50 feet. With that ball being so aggressive, it seems like you could kill your release, send it up the twig, and at least get a consistent read out of it. So what if it rolls out at 30 feet - as long as it does it at 30 feet each time, you can figure out a way to hit the headpin.
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#105529 - 10/17/09 09:31 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: cgeorg]
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Where I bowl the best players use one ball. the top 3 averages in my last league were 232-221 and all 3 of the guys used one ball and 1 of them had an occasional back up ball. Last week I heard one of them shot a 868 series, which is now the state record. Any insight on carrying a crapload of balls VS carrying one or two balls which is what I see a lot of good players do at my lanes? I'm sure they have more balls if they play on PBA patterns, but I'm not sure.
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#118300 - 02/16/10 12:36 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: kidrobot]
BowlerBob Offline
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New arsenal desired (unrelated to the current topic flow).
Need some input/suggestions to improve my arsenal.
I'm 150# 5'6", stroker, 15 mph, low-med rev, 4:30 release,16# balls, but will probably move to 15#. I bowl on a fresh oil (dry outside) THS. My trailing avg is ~185 and improving.
I like comparing the numbers, RG, diff, mass bias diff, etc.

I'd like to build an arsenal more suited to my style.

RotoGrip/Storm matchmakers suggest Hy-road & Reign Fire (very similar numbers), and Cell Pearl & Nomad Pearl (have it).

I would like 3 different layouts that are suited to the balls' design:
1 stacked: strong hooking ball for fresh oil or bowling the center and out of others' track;
1 label leverage: med-strong hook, med-long length, handle lane breakdown;
1 length layout: something to get through the front end cleanly with a strong back end (skid/flip), looking at 920A

[Rambling...I'm intrigued by Legends full coverstock.
I believe in harder balls to transfer energy better, but at the few points of hardness, this may be moot.
Watching Kelly Kulick use a Mission and her opponent in the semi-round (what's his name?) switch from Brunswick to a Mission (it looked like a Mission)caught my attention.]

I'm open to suggestions, Ebonite, Brunswick, Storm/Roto, Visionary, whatever.
Thanks!
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#125533 - 04/14/10 01:46 AM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
ridersofthestorm Offline
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Registered: 04/13/10
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A/S/L: 22 male australia
At them moment, I've only got two bowling balls, and one of them is a spare ball.

My Nxt Dimension is med to heavy, But it rolls less on dry because of the less friction on the lanes, at first it nearly drove me up the wall because i couldn't figure out why.

My next ball will be a Natural because I travel with my bowling and everyone knows you will hit different oil patterns along the way, Dry Oil ball which may come in handy for the 7 pin on my home alley as alot of the time when the lanes are done they'll be dry, because I haven't been able to master picking the 7 up with the dimension as no matter how hard i throw it it still misses it.

Then I am not too sure, I was going to get a Trop Storm but I've heard there rubbish in terms of durability and really aren't worth getting. Though I am open to different opinions.

Anyone give me advice?. I am looking for an all Storm Arsenal.

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#131573 - 07/11/10 07:48 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: ridersofthestorm]
300goal Offline
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Registered: 06/28/10
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A/S/L: 54/m/Arkansas
Bowlers-new and experienced alike:
I'm thinking I need a spare ball. What I see in league and on TV is most that use a spare ball throw it straight to make the spare-is that how most of you see what to do with a spare ball?
Is plastic the way to go or can anyone suggestsome brands/makes?
I use a 15# Track Delta Rule now(was on sale in my Pro Shop) as my only ball. I used to use a 14# Brunswick Swarm with little to no hook on it and it needs to be redrilled because my thumb is bigger now. Any suggestions?

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#131588 - 07/11/10 10:54 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: 300goal]
BowlerBob Offline
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Try throwing an alley ball that's a pound or two lighter to pick up spares and see if you like it.
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