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#167821 - 06/12/12 04:07 AM Elite Red Alien
charliexx Offline
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How is this ball compared to say a Storm Vivid or Brunswick C-System Ulti-Max?
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#167834 - 06/12/12 02:51 PM Re: Elite Red Alien [Re: charliexx]
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Originally Posted By: charliexx
How is this ball compared to say a Storm Vivid or Brunswick C-System Ulti-Max?


Well Charlie, it all depends on what you personally want out of the ball? The lower the RG means the quicker the ball will transition from skid to hook. Though you also want to factor in how you have the drilling setup.

All balls at 15#

Elite Red Alien RG 2.504

Storm Vivid RG 2.52

Brunswick C-System Ulti-Max RG 2.585

You will also want to figure the Differential... Which, depending on drilling pattern chosen, will vary the flare potential. The lower the Differential the more even the hook, I believe. Anyone feel free to correct me here lol.

Elite Red Alien Diff .043

Storm Vivid Diff .050

Brunswick C-System Ulti-Max Diff .050

Basically all of the bowling balls you mention have great hook potential when the oil is there. If the oil is not there to allow them to skid and build energy, they will just burnout and appear almost as a "dead" ball. There are also other factors in there that are part of the final factor in what type of reaction the ball will have. Though with the Vivid and the C-System Ulti-Max you're looking at what I call "long and strong" transition. Versus a more even hook with the Red Alien. Though my Red Alien does make quite a strong movement when the oil is there and the breakpoint area is clean.
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#167847 - 06/13/12 06:25 AM Re: Elite Red Alien [Re: charliexx]
charliexx Offline
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@ample sound great reply and information thanks a lot.
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PAP: 5 inch Horizontal 1 Inch Up
Storm Vivid / Lucid / Sync
Storm Crossroad / Hyroad
Storm Natural / Invasion
Roto Grip Berserk / Defiant Soul
All 14.3lbs - and not even a Storm staffer yet :-)

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#167848 - 06/13/12 06:27 AM Re: Elite Red Alien [Re: charliexx]
charliexx Offline
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A/S/L: 37/Male/Riyadh Saudi Arabia
I am adding a Lane #1 Buzz Bomb/R to this mix though, how should I layout it RH bowler to complete my arsenal
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PAP: 5 inch Horizontal 1 Inch Up
Storm Vivid / Lucid / Sync
Storm Crossroad / Hyroad
Storm Natural / Invasion
Roto Grip Berserk / Defiant Soul
All 14.3lbs - and not even a Storm staffer yet :-)

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#167859 - 06/13/12 02:10 PM Re: Elite Red Alien [Re: charliexx]
AmpleSound Offline
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Charlie, I would have to know a lot more about your style before I would have some kind of reccomendation for the drilling on the Lane 1 Buzz Bomb/R.
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In the bag:
DV8 Thug Unruly - (Heavy)
DV8 Ruckus Schizo - (Medium)
Columbia Plastic - (Spares/Dry)

My best:
HGS - 300
HSS - 769

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#167860 - 06/13/12 02:11 PM Re: Elite Red Alien [Re: charliexx]
AmpleSound Offline
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Registered: 10/17/07
Posts: 1225
A/S/L: 34/M/CO
Also it would be good to have an idea of the pin placement on the rest of your equipment.

Basically do you want it to do something different? Do you want it similar to something you have, but use it when lanes are fresh, or when the lanes breakdown? Etc....
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In the bag:
DV8 Thug Unruly - (Heavy)
DV8 Ruckus Schizo - (Medium)
Columbia Plastic - (Spares/Dry)

My best:
HGS - 300
HSS - 769

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