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#159729 - 12/21/11 07:57 AM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: Hunter]
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Originally Posted By: Hunterx
If this thread were to be updated for today's balls instead of 2008, would it look something like this? Using balls mentioned on this site mostly...

Heavy oil: Storm VG Nano, DV8 Hell Raiser, RG Critical Theory Brunswick Nexus f(p+f)/Alpha

Medium oil: Storm Frantic, Storm 2Furious, Brunswick Revolver, Ebonite Mission, DV8 Reckless

Light oil to very dry: Storm Reign Supreme, Brunswick Slingshot, Roto Grip Riot, Storm Tropical Heat

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Does this pretty much sum it up for the "more common" balls talked about here?


Compare the Storm Frantic and the Reign Supreme. wink

You've put the Frantic in medium, which is pretty correct. But when the look at the Reign Supreme's specs, they have: the same coverstock and the same box finish. Remember cover stock is 50-60% of the ball's reaction. These two bowling balls will have a fairly similar reaction (Reign Supreme will go just a little longer), and part of building an arsenal is having a wide range of reactions.

Storm Tropical Breeze instead of heat in light oil, mission to heavy oil, remove reign supreme and you've a basic list there (obviously there's more than storm/roto grip, ebonite and brunswick ;P)
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#159740 - 12/21/11 12:48 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: Kitten Latch]
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Originally Posted By: Kitten Latch
Compare the Storm Frantic and the Reign Supreme. wink

You've put the Frantic in medium, which is pretty correct. But when the look at the Reign Supreme's specs, they have: the same coverstock and the same box finish. Remember cover stock is 50-60% of the ball's reaction. These two bowling balls will have a fairly similar reaction (Reign Supreme will go just a little longer), and part of building an arsenal is having a wide range of reactions.


This is such a coincidence. I bowled with someone last night who had a Reign Supreme and it had a lot more backend than a video I saw online last week.

Good tip on the coverstock being responsible for about 50%-60% of the balls reaction. I guess the core would account for 10%, the bowler's contribution another 20% and then percentages for the sanded finish on the ball and RG?
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#159741 - 12/21/11 12:52 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: Hunter]
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I just purchased a Brunswick Apha-Max to go with my Slingshot. Now I will need a medium ball next.

I am anxious to find someone who has a HyRoad or Frantic in my alley.

There's no reason for me to be Pro-Brunswick, I think their website was just more appealing and easier to navigate when I bought my first ball, the Slingshot.
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#162293 - 02/06/12 08:55 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
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First time poster, so I figured it would be better to ask this question in here rather than creating a brand new thread. As of right now, the balls I own are the Cherry Vibe and the Victory Road (and a spare ball, of course, but it doesn't really matter to the situation lol). I'm looking to add to my arsenal, and I desperately need something that will give me more hook on a freshly oiled lane. I can either get the DV8 Hell Raiser Revenge AND Misfit (the Misfit is thrown in with the Hell Raiser Revenge at my local Pro Shop), OR any other ball (most likely the Modern Marvel). I guess my main question is, what do all you guys recommend? It appears as if the Victory Road and the Misfit are very similar, will the Misfit offer anything that the Victory Road doesn't? Which do you think will serve a tweener better, the Hell Raiser Revenge or the Modern Marvel?

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#162296 - 02/06/12 09:43 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
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actually the misfit is supposed to be a weaker ball but i feel it starts up earlier than the victory road as most entry level balls do, i think that the hell raiser revenge would be a good fit, and i think that the misfit could go under your vroad and above your cherry vibe, i think by changing drillings you could have a pretty good arsenal, what you could do is mess with the surfaces and drillings to get a very complete arsenal, i think you would be set, i think you should eventually get a ball above the vroad but below the revenge, maybe the modern marvel or even a marvel solid, i think that would give you a very complete arsenal
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#162620 - 02/11/12 09:37 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: dgordon0408]
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Thanks for the input. My friend hooked me up with a free Hell Raiser that I'm gonna try out. Excited to see how it rolls for me. It will certainly help with my decision.

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#166873 - 05/14/12 02:22 AM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
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my arsenal is.. nexxus purple, game change, sigma hybrid, frantic, hyroad, qz1, recon, then spare ball... is this a good arsenal?

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#166893 - 05/14/12 10:46 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: chowder]
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In my opinion, and it's just my opinion, you have bowling ball overload. For me, the Nexxus is fine at the top for heavy oil. The Game Change and the Sigma Hybrid cover the exact same oil condition. To me, carrying 8 balls around all the time is way too much. Just not necessary. I would get leave one of those at home. The Frantic and the Hyroad cover the exact same condition. They almost have the exact same specs. Leave one at home. For League I would go like this

Nexxus
Frantic
QZ1
Spare

Tourny
Nexxus
Sigma Hybrid
Frantic
QZ1
Recon
Spare

I don't think there is ever a need for more than 4 balls during league. Learn to play more than one line. Be able to play inside or outside and there is little need for 8 balls during league. I never used more than 2 balls during a typical league night, not counting my spare ball. I would use one ball until I thought I couldn't score effectively with it anymore, no matter where I played it on the lanes. If the only issue is carry, I can change that myself. The only concern I have is hitting the pocket. If I can hit the pocket on a regular basis then I can strike. I just have to find the right angle of entry. Usually I use one ball for the whole night. I usually start with the strongest ball I can use on a particular night and shell down if necessary.
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#168578 - 07/08/12 10:43 PM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: CoachJim]
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i have trouble on building an arsenal i have the roto grip defiant and critical theory and a storm frantic thanks

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#168582 - 07/09/12 05:44 AM Re: Building an Arsenal [Re: cole]
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That seems like a fairly decent arsenal for just starting out. Judging from the videos you posted, I think you would be better off spending your money on lessons than more equipment. Find a good coach in your area and start working on your game. Post back if you have specific questions.

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