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#63063 - 08/03/08 08:19 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Brian, what house do you bowl at?

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#63066 - 08/03/08 09:24 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: MJA]
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I just finished a league @ Wayne recreation.. But I'm bowling in the fall league @ Georgetown Bowl.
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#63092 - 08/04/08 08:04 AM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Brian Pickell]
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Your fingers aren't comming up the side of the ball. You hand is on top of the ball instead of behind it. Your wrist is broken back in spite of your wrist brace.

EDIT: At this point, your fingers should be at about the equator of the ball, not on top of it.

EDIT2: My guess is that your fingers and thumb are comming out at about the same time and that is causing you to Track over the thumb hole. If your kept your hand behind the ball more and had your thumb exit before your fingers, I think your Track would move down (along with adding more revs).


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#63093 - 08/04/08 08:11 AM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Lefty]
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I agree with lefty, your fingers and thumb are coming out at the same time, on the positive side it doesn't look like your fingers are going clockwise (full roller style), but your fingers aren't turning counter clockwise either, this is why it is tracking over the thumb. If you could get your fingers below the equator of the ball it would probably move your Track off the thumb by an inch or so.

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#63095 - 08/04/08 08:20 AM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: CoachJim]
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Look at the angle of the ball rotation that your release gives you. Your first roll will be right at or over the thumb. Get your hand under the ball and roll it up the side of the ball after the thumb is out. Your Track will be off your thumb.
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#63103 - 08/04/08 09:51 AM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Dennis Michael]
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Thanks, that helps a lot.. I will try that tomorrow when I go out for practice.
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#63107 - 08/04/08 12:32 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Brian Pickell]
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When I get home I'm going to go through the rest of the video.. I'm thinking that clip might be from the game where I was trying a straighter line... I noticed that my ball didn't have much of a hook to it in that clip.. So I'm thinking that is what I did to take some of the hook out to run the straighter line to the pocket.
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#63154 - 08/04/08 06:21 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Brian Pickell]
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This one is from yesterday afternoon. I run it through slomo in windows media player and it appears I'm more on the side of the ball. I don't know for sure you can be the judge.. I didn't go through the whole hour of video, I just pulled my first shot of the day.

Please don't make fun of my shirt.. wasn't expecting to leave the house yesterday... LOL

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#63157 - 08/04/08 07:36 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: Brian Pickell]
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You have a muscled armswing and your thumb comes out of the ball around the same time your fingers do. IMO, you should work on the armswing before anything else. It looks like you are slowing the ball down on the way back, then pulling it up. If you let it flow, it will be much easier to keep your hand behind the ball and get it to roll off your hand at the correct point.
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#63158 - 08/04/08 08:08 PM Re: Oil track over my thumb hole [Re: cgeorg]
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Yeah, I have been working on that. I have been having my grip adjusted trying to get it right. It's a lot better, but I still feel like I'm going to drop the ball. I have the kung fu grip with my fingers and have been trying really hard not to grip with my thumb. Almost concentrating on pushing my thumb nail to the back of the thumb hole. And because of all that I end up muscling the ball. I feel like I have to control the swing or I'll drop the ball. I need to get that out of my head so I can have a more free swing.

The thing I'm real disappointed about though is that my coach has not mentioned that at all. He is more focused on my release and trying to keep me from turning my wrist.

He hasn't even mentioned me chicken winging the follow through. I didn't know it till I just watched this video.
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