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#161465 - 01/25/12 01:10 AM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: spillup24]
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I never really cared one way or another for Rash. I only ever watched his technique. It's a pretty typical updated biomechnical style of play. You see it or a version of it a lot now. So it's a good way to learn the game. My analysis shows that he's basically a smoother Rhino Page when it comes to style. Great technique and shot maker, but when the pressure is on he tends to whiff and leave a 4-5 count split. Never really cared for his sponsor. I don't like Brunswick equipment at all. Aside from that...I could've cared less.

Until the bottle b*tch comment he made to Belmo. That bugged me, especially about watching a documentary on the revival of the PBA and the standards they have or had. I've listened over and over to the match in question and haven't heard anything (probably my speakers not being good enough, if it did happen). Anyways, he still shouldn't have let that effect his game so much or make a big deal about it. A simple thank you for giving me a reason to pound strikes in your face would've worked. But nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo...bottle b*tch. I'm all for wearing your emotions on your sleeve if you're that kind of person. I know I am. I laugh, talk, yell and all that mess myself, but I don't cuss out other players. I let my 270+ games beat their idiocy back into their seats.

Also I think there was an interesting mention about the TV production and the context of everything. We all know it, the PBA is desperate for ratings. And so far this last month they must've gotten it. Belmo's 300, to Blanchard's fall to Osko's win and now Williams' win. However, as someone mentioned before, a rivalry would really help. And who exactly has taken issue with all these bowlers from other nations in the PBA? Hmmmm...oh right. Sean Rash. There's his Belmo incident (and he and Belmo have been bowling in the last few shows), some conflict with Stu Williams that we don't know about, a comment about Osko needing to learn how it is in the PBA (didn't that guy just win a major?), and Ruiz well that's just being arrogant the way he said he'd prefer himself to win. I'm not saying he shouldn't have, but he could've said it better in my opinion. So there's at least 2 that Rash has, I'm sure if Osko cares, and Ruiz is up and coming so we'll have to see.

Now on to this last week. The feud between Williams and Rash, we know nothing about. There is apparently a personality clash. That could be the emotional v stoic bowling styles or not. We don't know. However, the camera has been zoomed in on Rash the last few weeks because he has been winning and has had all of this past conflict and is emotional.

Something else I noticed. Anybody notice how Rash was meant to come across as the arrogant [censored] and Williams the loveable oaf? That's kind of on Rash, but also on the production and TV crew. Not saying Rash isn't an arrogant [censored], but I don't think asking such polarizing questions should be asked especially if you are trying have some sort of standards about the league. Meh, but do we know? We aren't in the PBA. We don't know how it is. nut seeingstars

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#161468 - 01/25/12 07:57 AM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: TheDemolitionMan]
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Originally Posted By: TheDemolitionMan
Now on to this last week. The feud between Williams and Rash, we know nothing about. There is apparently a personality clash. That could be the emotional v stoic bowling styles or not. We don't know. However, the camera has been zoomed in on Rash the last few weeks because he has been winning and has had all of this past conflict and is emotional.

Something else I noticed. Anybody notice how Rash was meant to come across as the arrogant [censored] and Williams the loveable oaf? That's kind of on Rash, but also on the production and TV crew. Not saying Rash isn't an arrogant [censored], but I don't think asking such polarizing questions should be asked especially if you are trying have some sort of standards about the league. Meh, but do we know? We aren't in the PBA. We don't know how it is. nut seeingstars


Williams is very stoic. I remember him letting out a little noise on xtra frame during the masters after he flushed some strikes while his opponent threw some poor shots that brooklyn'd. The commentators were very quick to point out that it's the first time they've heard him get fired up in a match. Dude's very cool.

And yeah, Rash has had the spotlight for being ridiculously good in the South Point lanes (he's been second and first in wsob qualifiers held there) but on the TV constructed pair there's no track area built up and that's obviously affecting his game, he just hasn't got the room, unless the guys break the lanes down well like they did for Sean's world championshp pod.

Espn can't do much when the words out of Sean's mouth are basically 'I'm better than everyone else, I'm the story here gimme everything'.
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#161474 - 01/25/12 10:28 AM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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I cannot stand Rash. His entire personality is RASH, My son and I were watching the show and this time my wife was sitting in there watching as well. After about 10 mins of the show she says "I dont know what it is but the guy in the yellow shirt just does not look like a nice person" my son and I who follow and watch all the PBA events just started to laugh and agreed then when his little interview about Stu came just she said "Yep i knew he was jerk" . The thing with Belmo was also just way over the top. Like another had said i went and watched that team show over and over again turned my surround sound all the way up and did not hear a thing. Also it is not like it was for a masters title or anything it was a team tournament that ment nothing at all.
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#161488 - 01/25/12 11:59 AM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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The Belmo/Rash thing has been beaten to death in another thread.

First, I clearly heard the bottle cracking. he did it twice in that show and since Belmo apologized after the second time then that should show you that he definitely did it.

Doesn't matter if it were for a masters tourney, a viper championship or a team event. Money is money and they all want to win it.

Yes, Rash did go over the top. Have you noticed that Belmo does not use the water bottle anymore? He uses a cup...

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#161515 - 01/25/12 06:39 PM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: spillup24]
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I did notice that spillup or Belmo will use one of those glass water bottles.
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#161516 - 01/25/12 06:52 PM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: spillup24]
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Originally Posted By: spillup24
Originally Posted By: Tim Gerard
I guess Williams learned quickly enough as how to bowl on the PBA tour.


Williams is a good bowler on any tour. Remember this tournament was a 14 game qualifyer then the top 4 made TV. This wasn't a 40 game tournament with match play where the cream usually rises to the top to make television. So yes Williams did win but I question if he or Ruiz really would've been successful if it were a standard type tournament.

On the other hand he did qualify in what the tourney guidlines were so congrats to him.


To be fair over 40 games for the World championships which consisted of all the pattern qualifiers and a cashers round he finished 4th with a +1023 and Ruiz was 7th with +921 so I think that proves that they are able to go the distance somewhat. Only time will tell how successful they will be over time though.

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#161518 - 01/25/12 07:02 PM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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To be fair over 40 games for the World championships which consisted of all the pattern qualifiers and a cashers round he finished 4th with a +1023 and Ruiz was 7th with +921 so I think that proves that they are able to go the distance somewhat. Only time will tell how successful they will be over time though.

Very valid point....I always like to root for the fat guy! Mike Devanney, Jason Couch and now Williams will be on my list to root for.


Edited by spillup24 (01/25/12 07:03 PM)

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#161633 - 01/28/12 09:20 AM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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maybe it's time to combine bowling and 'professional wrestling', just picture it.........

.....bowler one comes out of the tunnel [with a big screen behing him showing all action], grabs a mic and starts talking trash, then climbs thru the ropes to the lanes. bowler two comes out, same deal, talks trash, then into the roped off lanes.

the match starts, bowler one throws a strike, on the way back to the approach, bowler two jumps off the top rope and crashes bowler one to the ground.......

leave a split, and it's a figure 4 leg lock baby!!



haha.............that'll boost the ratings for sure.......



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#161644 - 01/28/12 01:17 PM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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HAHA tbill great post
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#161646 - 01/28/12 02:03 PM Re: Rash on ESPN this weekend [Re: whitepuffin]
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Originally Posted By: whitepuffin
Originally Posted By: spillup24
Originally Posted By: Tim Gerard
I guess Williams learned quickly enough as how to bowl on the PBA tour.
Williams is a good bowler on any tour. Remember this tournament was a 14 game qualifyer then the top 4 made TV. This wasn't a 40 game tournament ....
To be fair over 40 games for the World championships which consisted of all the pattern qualifiers and a cashers round he finished 4th with a +1023...

It turns out that - at least that week, on that pattern, Williams was better than any PBA bowler. QED.

However, I think all Rash was saying was that different lane conditions, a non-stop unrelenting life of drive-then-bowl-then-drive, and the incredible depth of talent of all styles that follows this grinding circuit presents a formidable uphill climb to anyone entering the PBA tour - as Rash has found out.

btw - if QED threw you for a loop, it means quod erat demonstrandum.....


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Anybody notice how Rash was meant to come across as the arrogant [censored] and Williams the loveable oaf? - The Demolition Man
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