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#123079 - 03/21/10 08:39 PM How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll
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Bowling Hand Positions. - There are many different hand positions in bowling. I am only going to start out with a few of the basic ones. Cupped, Straight, and Broken are the 3 basic vertical hand positions. The 3 basic horizontal wrist positions which are at 12 o'clock, 10:30, and 9 o'clock. Using different combinations of these changing hand positions in bowling will affect the ball roll. This affect causes the bowling ball to have earlier roll or later roll. It can also cause different angles to the pocket and cause the ball to hook or roll at different spots on the bowling lane. At times it can substitute for bowling ball speed problems. These basic wrist combinations, along with different finger positions in gripping the bowling ball may be all that's needed. Try them before changing bowling lane lines, or even changing bowling equipment, or bowling ball layouts.

1. The Cupped Release - The cupped release is when your wrist is curled so that your fingers and hand are angled upward in a 45 degree angle. This causes the bowling ball to roll sooner. It also gives you an earlier break point. (Note: most crankers or high revolution bowlers like this wrist position).

2. The Straight Release - The straight release is when your wrist is straight. There is no break upward or downward. This release is a starting position. It is a release that should be used most of the time. You should then adjust from this point. This is a medium wrist position. (Note: most straight bowlers or strokers like this wrist position).

3. The Broken Wrist Release - The broken wrist position, or release, is when your hand and fingers are angle down toward the ground; also your wrist is broken. This release position is used when you want to delay the break point or if you want to get the ball down lane before it hooks. It is also used to get through the heads. (Note: the heads are the first part of the bowling lane). It can also substitute for ball speed or for drier lane conditions. I have seen famous professional like Norm Duke and Brian Voss use this release a lot.

4. The 12 o'clock Release - With the 12 o'clock, or 10 degree, release as you hold your ball your thumb comes straight up with no (or very little) side turn. Your hand and thumb will be at the 12 o'clock position as it is released. This release will give the bowling ball a lot of end over end roll. It causes the bowling ball to delay its break point. This release is used on dryer lanes and to help get the ball down the lane before it hooks. (Note: this is also called a 10 degree axis rotation).

5. The 10:30 Release - With the 10:30, or 45 degree, release as you hold your bowling ball your hand is turned horizontal and your thumb is pointed at 10:30 on a clock, or at a 45 degree angle. This release is the most common. It also should be used as a starting point. This release gives the bowling ball a slight inward turn toward the 7 pin. (Note: this is also called a 45 degree axis rotation).

6. The 9 o'clock Release - With the 9 o'clock, or 90 degree, release as you hold the bowling ball your hand is turned horizontally to the side facing 9 o'clock. This release causes the ball to have a lot of spin. It sometimes causes what we call a spinner. This means the bowling ball is spinning like a top. It also has very little ball to lane surface contact. This means the bowling ball will not have much hook or drive as it rolls down the bowling lane. When it hits the bowling pins it may hit dead with not much action. (Note: this is also called the 90 degree axis rotation).
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#154879 - 09/04/11 03:40 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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Edited by KahKiat (09/04/11 03:41 AM)
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#154883 - 09/04/11 05:42 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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These are old videos.

I don't know why but I never liked the video with the old guy.

Bowling is an evolving sport.
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#154987 - 09/06/11 08:51 PM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: Vini]
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Originally Posted By: Vini
I don't know why but I never liked the video with the old guy.



hmmmm....some of my best friends are old guys...
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#155154 - 09/11/11 02:15 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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#155155 - 09/11/11 07:17 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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I must have a very unorthadox hand position because i rarely every see it as an example. Thumb at 2-3, wrist cocked slightly, and ball laying flat on the hand. Just drive the ball to my target with very little to no turning of the hand. When i post, its palm up.

I do this for a couple reasons. 1) it keeps my elbow tucked in consistantly, i haven't "chicken winged" a ball in years. 2) It puts my fingers in a stronger position giving me more drive on the ball.


Edited by metguy (09/11/11 07:22 AM)
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#155252 - 09/13/11 09:05 PM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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I'm with metguy.

When I picked (or tried to) up bowling after a 16 layoff, my driller told me I need to have the ball resting on the bone group from my index finger over to my ring finger and no more. After 3 years of this, I have constant problems hitting my line.

Since I changed centers, my new guru (redrilled my ball great!) told me he sets up with the weight of the ball distributed across the whole palm. I remember doing this many years ago, but the results were less than satisfactory, but I had some fit issues. It feels really flakey, but in a really comfortable way. It feels like I'm doing the wrong thing, but it works really good! Last Friday night I hit my marks more constantly than I have in years, and just like Metguy said, I can post with little to no turning of the hand for a real nice shot. In fact, it kinda puts you on the inside of the ball without the work of trying to.
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#155268 - 09/14/11 08:46 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: RWatson44]
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One more little detail i'd like to mention.

If you look at your hand (go ahead and do that now), you will notice your THUMB does not point squarely to your bowling fingers (its at an angle). So, why do Pro Shops drill your grip with the thumb square to the fingers? I have my thumb at a slight angle and that allows me even a better feel for the ball. If the pitches are correct then it becomes a feel issue and i want the ball to feel good in my hand.
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#155338 - 09/16/11 05:29 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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If I read your post correctly, you are claiming that drillers don't drill lateral pitch in your thumb hole? That's odd...

I have lateral pitch in mine. In fact, too much pitch. My newest driller (at my request) removed all my fore-aft and lateral pitch to "0/0" to just try it. I actually like it better however, since I started rolling with the ball settled down on my whole palm ( which is still in the trial stage) I'm beginning to wish I had a little lateral again.

But at least I have someone who is just as curious as me and is willing to let ME input ideas into my quest for MY ideal fit, instead of being an overbearing, rigid know-it-all like the last one.
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#155343 - 09/16/11 10:31 AM Re: How Changing Hand Positions Affects Ball Roll [Re: KahKiat]
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