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#153324 - 07/15/11 09:33 PM Re: All About Rev Rate ***** [Re: KahKiat]
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#153325 - 07/15/11 09:56 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
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#153327 - 07/16/11 12:35 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
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Thanks guys for all the help. I just have to try to put it into practice.

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#153332 - 07/16/11 01:04 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: CoachJim]
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Originally Posted By: CoachJim


EVERYTHING you want to know, and more. I watched lesson #4 about 20 times relating it to my 10 pin inconsistancies. I'm gonna need a bigger notebook.....
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#153396 - 07/18/11 09:43 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
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I'm putting together a post, got to see what i can do. If i can't delete it (since its a test post) then kindly disregard it.
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#153432 - 07/20/11 12:47 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: metguy]
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It's hard to tell from the video but when does Wes c*ck his wrist ? On the downswing I guess because I don't think he has his wrist cocked at address or during his setup.

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#153518 - 07/23/11 11:02 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: Skeeball]
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I don't think he c0cks his wrist, at all. He turns his hand, he has good leverage, his accelleration is excellant, but nothing fancy with the wrist. He may be breaking his wrist some during his accelleration through the ball, thats about it from what i'm seeing.
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#153519 - 07/24/11 12:01 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
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Wes Mallot definitely c0cks his wrist. He is one of the best at doing it. If you look at the video above his ring finger is almost at 9:00! Stop it at the 11 second mark. Mallott DEFINES wrist C0ck!

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#153523 - 07/24/11 03:24 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: spillup24]
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I was thinking "Cupping", sorry. Didn't mean to mislead anyone there. Most all the higher rev bowlers turn their hand in (or c0ck their wrist) to allow the ball to have momentum going into the release. I wonder if the "Unc0cking" of the wrist at the bottom of the swing is forced or gravity induced?
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#153531 - 07/24/11 08:19 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: metguy]
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I wonder if the "Unc0cking" of the wrist at the bottom of the swing is forced or gravity induced?


This is where I can help. Most people don't have the wrist strength to get into this position in the first place, of the ones that do, most don't have the strength to hold the wrist in this position after the thumb exits the all and the wrist uncocks automatically; however, some do possess the wrist strength to hold the wrist in a cocked position through the release, they either have to learn to extend their fingers through the bottom of the ball, this unwraps the wrist after the thumb exits, or they have to trigger it in some way that make sense to them.

If they go through the release with a c0cked wrist, the ball will have way too much axis tilt and spin down the lane, I have only known one bowler who was able to make this work well for him and he could hook the ball as much as Robert Smith, he would struggle on certain lane conditions to the point where he didn't stand a chance, and with modern equipment it wouldn't take much to dry the lanes out to the point where he would struggle, so I think it would be better to learn to uncock your wrist than try to get by with a c0cked release.

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