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#152206 - 06/07/11 10:42 PM All About Rev Rate *****
KahKiat Offline
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Anatomy of an Elite Release: How to Improve Your Rev Rate: http://bowlingknowledge.info/images/stories/slowinskijune11.pdf

An easier method that
increases your rev rate: http://www.mariacristinasgrosso.it/PDF/articoli/relatori/11_eng.pdf

Strong Finger Position One Key to Creating Revs: http://bowlingknowledge.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=140&Itemid=62











Edited by KahKiat (06/07/11 10:43 PM)
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#153059 - 07/04/11 09:09 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
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#153085 - 07/05/11 05:53 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
spectral Offline
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looks easy enough but so hard to do

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#153088 - 07/05/11 07:11 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: spectral]
FruitFly Offline
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Originally Posted By: spectral
looks easy enough but so hard to do


Cant count the times I've thought that!
Just some time ago I recieved my first ever magic carpet.
I expected wonders and it is indeed great.
But still my ball flutters all over the place with nothing on it.
I have yet to find a release I'm comfortable with AND thats doable for me.
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#153133 - 07/06/11 11:35 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: spectral]
Skeeball Offline
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Originally Posted By: spectral
looks easy enough but so hard to do


Here Here! Easier said than done. For my two cents CoachJim posted recently about letting the ball drop and use gravity. I tried it and once and awhile I have the patience enough to wait for the ball on the downswing. I think this is where the compression part comes in, I may be wrong but it makes a huge difference on the delivery. If you can let your arm just fall and keep your wrist in position I can feel the ball in the fingertips and coming around the ball on release. To me it seems to be working a lot better now, I'm getting the ball into the fingertips much more consistently at the bottom of the swing.

Hope that helps.

PS, here's CoachJim's link:

http://www.bowlingcommunity.com/b/ubbthreads.php/topics/153024/1.html


Edited by Skeeball (07/06/11 11:40 PM)

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#153134 - 07/07/11 12:23 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
Atochabsh Offline
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its a great article. But for some, they may need a step before this lesson. And I think learning a free arm swing (rather then forced and muscled) and getting the hand behind the ball in a strong/firm position rather then over the top or spinning the ball. There's a need for a lesson before this for most folks, IMO. Because doing what Slowinski talks about is very difficult if you do not have a free arm swing or balance at the line.

Something that will gain revolutions before moving onto this type of lesson is to get lower in the release, have that later timing (waiting for the heel as Slowinski mentions) and having balance at the line (posting the shot). If you do those three things, most people will gain revs. But, IMO, you need to have these things in place before moving onto the more dynamic hand and finger position.

Erin

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#153139 - 07/07/11 08:31 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
spectral Offline
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I think key is indeed to free up your armswing. When someone tells you to keep your hand behind the ball and fingers below the equator. It all sounds easy and when you conclude you can not keep your fingers below the equator you get desperate and think your wrist is too weak.

However my approach and delivery right now limits my ability to keep my fingers below the equator. My armswing is totally forced and makes it impossible to keep the fingers below the equator and behind the ball.

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#153142 - 07/07/11 10:44 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: spectral]
FruitFly Offline
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Registered: 03/23/11
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I am able to keep my fingers below the equator, but since a lot of your revs come from acceleration my mind is set on that. Sadly my mind is not good at it and so I tend to accelerate way to early in my downswing, thus killing the revs.

But I've got another question about revs: When I watch the videos most of the pros "slap" the ball at release. I tried that, but cant seem to do it fast enough. Is there some kind of trick to it? Like "more to the side" or indeed "in a 45 degree angle through the ball"?

Plus: I seem to not have enough holding ability in my fingers, though they are not that weak. My inserts allow me to put my fingers in to the first joint and not an inch further. Not even by force. Is this too tight?

Damn, revs are hard to create if you dont have a proper teacher or gift of nature
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#153153 - 07/08/11 03:41 AM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
Atochabsh Offline
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Registered: 02/13/01
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A/S/L: 50/F/California
Fruit, from all you have written it sounds that you just "pull the trigger" way to early. YOu would be under the equator if you didn't try to hook the ball so much and so early. You really cannot "pull the trigger" until your hand has just passed your ankle. Anything before that, is too early.

And a lot of this earliness comes from you thinking of this acceleration in your head, IMO. Yes, the hand need to accelerate at the release, but if you concentrate on it, you will turn it too early. Again, you have to wait, wait for it.

Erin

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#153173 - 07/08/11 07:07 PM Re: All About Rev Rate [Re: KahKiat]
DocLogic77 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/10
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The key to creating revs is everything being relaxed. Tension is a rev killer. Any muscle in the swing will force your hand either to the side of the ball or above the equator. If you have tension in your hand, you won't get out of the ball properly. I'm not a big guy, nor am I an expert bowler. But, I do have a relaxed swing, and a relaxed hand grip. That is why I can put some stuff on the ball. The relaxed swing, grip and loaded hand position give me all the revs I need.
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