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#143371 - 01/07/11 07:43 AM Tenth frame names
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Hi!
Could you help me with bowling terms for tenth frame?
There are all variants of the end of tenth frame:

8 | 1 | (exactly open frame)
9 | \ | 8 (is it closed frame? last delivery named 'Fill Ball'?)
9 | \ | X
X | 8 | 1 (is it closed frame? last delivery is not named 'Fill Ball'?)
X | 8 | \
X | X | 7 (is it closed frame? last delivery named 'Fill Ball'?)
X | X | X

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#143375 - 01/07/11 09:46 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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#143377 - 01/07/11 10:13 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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I see what he's asking and I've wondered myself.

If you run a closed game into the 10th and you bowl X/X/8 or X/8/1, is it still considered a 'closed game?'
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#143383 - 01/07/11 11:08 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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you mean clean game? If so, since you struck or spared in the 10th frame, it is still considered clean - the fill balls are just that - fills.
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#143395 - 01/07/11 12:54 PM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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Yeah, Victor, the 10th frame is considered closed with at least a spare in it, no matter what happens filling the marks.
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#143415 - 01/07/11 05:37 PM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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I meant how "open frames" is calculated officially in the game (in pro tours or championships) for statistics.

Thank you for your help and replies.

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#143419 - 01/07/11 06:01 PM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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Is this what you wanted?

8 | 1 | = 9
9 | \ | 8 = 18
9 | \ | X = 20
X | 8 | 1 = 19
X | 8 | \ = 20
X | X | 7 = 27
X | X | X = 30

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#143450 - 01/08/11 06:13 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: B-Hammer]
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No, I meant not score calculation for tenth frame.

I was not sure about the terms (X|8|1, 8|\|4 is closed or opened frames)
And which ball in my variants exactly named as "fill ball"?

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#143452 - 01/08/11 07:03 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: biktop300]
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Anytime you get a third shot in the tenth frame it is called the fill ball, even if you threw 2 strikes already.
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#143454 - 01/08/11 07:14 AM Re: Tenth frame names [Re: Calvin Pistorio]
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Originally Posted By: Calvin Pistorio
Anytime you get a third shot in the tenth frame it is called the fill ball, even if you threw 2 strikes already.

Clarification request:
Let's say you throw a strike in the tenth. The frame is closed.

Wouldn't the second and third shots both be considered fills?
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