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#136700 - 10/03/10 10:36 PM Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step
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I have been trying to work on my timing lately. Right now I am doing a 4 step approach and wonder if I went to a 5 step if I will get more ball speed? Is there any advantage to a 5 step or 4 step approach?

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#136710 - 10/03/10 11:49 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Raydee]
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Maybe, but it's all in tempo. I'd ask how fast is your speed now, and do you have a decent loose swing? The best thing would be for you to post a video (full length, back and side) and let the coaches look at it, then go from there. A lot of folks do fine with 4 steps, some need 5 for their timing.
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#136724 - 10/04/10 09:41 AM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: JackZ]
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Switching from a 4-step to a 5-step really won't help you with ball speed. However, should the extra step allow your tempo to become more in sync and all that it may help. Additionally, with the addition of an extra step you can start the ball earlier than normal and possibly increase your ball's reaction. Other than that, nothing is very different.
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#136730 - 10/04/10 10:22 AM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Raydee]
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I've done a 5 step since I started. A coach of mine suggested I switch to a 4 step. Since I'm a thumbless bowler and I generate all of my speed with my approach it failed miserably. My ball speed was down at least 4 mph haha. Since I'm an unorthodox bowler that muscles the ball (I know its a huge crime) it didn't work for me. I don't even really have a backswing to say the least. Stick with what's comfortable for you.
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#136732 - 10/04/10 11:12 AM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Reconbbs]
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I used to be a 5 step bowler and switched to a 4 after advice from this group. I like it. It feels more natural and compact.

I am fascinated by taking on new skills and new sports. One thing I have learned about each is K.I.S.S. keep it simple stupid. The less motion I have to do in any sport the less I can mess up. One extra step is just one more than I can lose my balance on, or mess up my timing on etc. That's why I'm a stroker and not a cranker. It's why the no muscle gravity swing makes sense to me. And it's why 4 steps instead of 5 makes sense to me as well. Less is more in virtually every sport I have played.
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#136736 - 10/04/10 01:40 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Raydee]
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I went from a 4 step approach to a 5 step. I had really bad timing with the 4 step as I was pushing the ball out late. The extra step has helped me get my timing more in sync.
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#136742 - 10/04/10 04:39 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Raydee]
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With the five step I end up holding the ball in front of me for an extra step which tensed me up, with the four I just push and walk, so for me it works better.

I know their are bowlers that use their feet to increase and decrease speed (Norm Duke, Carolyn Dorin-Ballard, Walter Ray), but I don't know if they take more or less steps or just walk faster.

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#136743 - 10/04/10 04:42 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: B-Hammer]
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Duke, as far as I've seen takes either 5 or 6 depending on the lanes. Not sure about the other 2. WRW prolly just steps back farther, but he's a big guy.
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#136744 - 10/04/10 04:56 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: Raydee]
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Originally Posted By: Raydee
I have been trying to work on my timing lately. Right now I am doing a 4 step approach and wonder if I went to a 5 step if I will get more ball speed? Is there any advantage to a 5 step or 4 step approach?


No advantage either way. Try both and use whatever feels right to you. Some say that four is simpler. Others say that with a five-step, you have one step to just get everything going, and in sync. Both are correct.

One small thing I could think of... is that when you start a four step approach, you push off of your left foot... which has a sliding sole on it. There is a chance of slippage, especially if the approaches are slidy (is that a word?).
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#136747 - 10/04/10 05:26 PM Re: Any advantage of a 5 step approach over the 4 step [Re: trekguy]
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Originally Posted By: trekguy
One small thing I could think of... is that when you start a four step approach, you push off of your left foot... which has a sliding sole on it. There is a chance of slippage, especially if the approaches are slidy (is that a word?).


Yeah, if you're left handed.

Uh, can't find anything in the posts that says he starts with his left foot....did I miss something?


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