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#135782 - 09/21/10 06:11 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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the ball should start with your right foot, it doesn't move until the second step, this puts you a whole step behind where you should be as far as timing goes etc...see my previous post



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#135801 - 09/21/10 12:11 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Thank you for the clarification. I am certainly still struggling with the feel of moving the ball with the right foot. I thought from a feel standpoint I was doing better with it but the video doesn't lie. It will be what I work on exclusively at my next practice. I appreciate your help.
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#135852 - 09/22/10 08:28 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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I would have been impressed if you fixed your timing that quickly on your own. It took me all 3 days of a three day clinic to do it myself with Ron Clifton standing right there watching me. Timing is one of if not the hardest thing to fix since it effects the entire approach and your feel for it.

Have patients, do the drills I suggested at home every day and at the lanes before bowling as a warm up.

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#135880 - 09/22/10 04:28 PM Re: My first video [Re: CoachJim]
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Thanks Jim...I really do appreciate your help. My timing is still a bit off but it feels like it's getting better. I averaged a 157 at todays session and worked mostly on my footwork and timing. There is no doubt this is helping my game.



Edited by DocLogic77 (09/22/10 04:29 PM)
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#135896 - 09/22/10 08:16 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Timing looks better in steps 1-3 now you just have to learn to wait on the ball as it comes from the top of swing to the release. Right now you are smooth up to the top then you pull it down from the top of the swing, let it free fall and you will notice you will be more accurate, get better hand into the ball (rev rate) and you will see better reaction and carry on the lanes.

You did very well in changing your timing, it looks really good now for the first 3/4 of it, now just finish it off by allowing gravity to bring the ball back to your release point. You can accelerate through the ball, but wait until it gets to your ankle, if you do it before then you are rushing the shot.

This is also one of the reasons why you pull the first two shots left, because as you pull the ball down the hand naturally rotates early to the outside of the ball, causing you to launch it left. If you wait on the ball the hand will ride the ball down to the bottom and then will flip the ball without you having to really do anything to it.
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#135897 - 09/22/10 08:28 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Your timing looks better, you need to let gravity swing the ball and your arm instead of you forcing the ball and the swing with your arm and back. Disconnect the muscles and let the weight of the ball swing your arm, don't worry if the ball doesn't hook you can't force the ball to hook, or strike by forcing it down the lane, learn to disconnect your arm and let the ball do the work.

Next time add a shot or two from the side so I can see your timing, swing and posture better.

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#135903 - 09/22/10 09:23 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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I really appreciate the advice and words of encouragement. There is no doubt I am really having a problem trusting gravity in my swing. This has been a very hard habit to break. I need to rest the thumb but during my next session I won't worry about score or hooking the ball...just letting gravity do it's thing. I will definitely get a side shot next session Jim. Thanks again for all your help guys.
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#135907 - 09/22/10 10:13 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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I'm impressed, dude! That is an amazing improvement. keep up the good work.
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#135911 - 09/22/10 10:42 PM Re: My first video [Re: 10PinGaloot]
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Thanks Pin. smile
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#136142 - 09/25/10 09:50 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Tonight was my first night back. I don't have a video because it was just too busy at the alley to mess with it. Also, I'm not sure how much progress I made. What I will say is this...I finally know what people are talking about when they say the ball will feel weightless at a point in the back swing. I probably only got it right on 10% of my shots but I know this advice is where its at. When the ball did feel weightless and I trusted gravity on the way down my shots were dead on the mark.

It did mess with my timing a bit. It was really hard because I felt like I was waiting on my swing to come down...felt very slow. It threw my timing of when I try to put wrist into my shot and on a couple shots I came around almost on top of the ball for a super awkward release.

I did have a guy watching me who offered a few pointers. He just wanted my hand behind the ball. I stopped trying to put any movement on the ball and was a ton more accurate. He then moved me to where my left foot was on board 13 and I was aiming at 4. With no movement of my wrist I was hooking hard from the dry boards and dropping alot of strikes. When I missed, it was because I put muscle into my swing. It's going to take awhile but I'm hoping my next video shows a ton of improvement.

Thanks again for all the help.
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First Clean Game-1/13/11-204, second 234 (1/17/11)

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