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#137225 - 10/13/10 10:50 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
DocLogic77 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/10
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Thanks Coach. That is indeed helpful. I suppose that's why I want to fall to my right after every shot. I have a few videos where I about completely fall over. Whoever said this game is easy doesn't know what they are talking about...lol. I will work on it and see where I am in a couple weeks.
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#137558 - 10/18/10 03:13 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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I broke a couple personal records today. I got my first 200+ and broke 500 for the first time. I'm pretty stoked.

201-194-133

This was two of my strikes in the tenth of my 201 game. I was mainly working on my balance issues and I seemed much more steady today.

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#137614 - 10/19/10 06:31 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Your timing is still late, as your second step compresses, the ball should be past your right hip, it is by your right leg. You are taking too long from where you start the ball until you drop it into the swing. You can see your pacing reflects the slow swing, your steps count 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 when it should be 1 and 23 slide. You don't need to think of the steps, if you drop the ball into the swing at the right point your feet will pick up the pace naturally.

Watch this video if you haven't seen it already, I watch it before I go to the lanes as it is the most important thing you can learn or teach someone in bowling technique:


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#137617 - 10/19/10 09:21 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
DocLogic77 Offline
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Thanks for that Jim. It confirms what I have been feeling with my timing. I noticed when I get the ball down into my swing quicker I don't put any muscle energy into the ball and my accuracy climbs. As soon as I mess that up I muscle it and pull it. I have been working on trying to drop it at a 45 degree angle and get it into my swing quicker. Obviously, I am not really getting that done at this point. My timing is still my biggest issue and probably the hardest part of my game to "get". Thank you.
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#137663 - 10/20/10 06:20 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
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Timing is the hardest thing to fix on your own, it can be right one time and wrong the next and feel the same to you, this is why it's important to get a good coach to help you through this.

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#138329 - 10/30/10 09:37 AM Re: My first video [Re: CoachJim]
DocLogic77 Offline
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I have been working and working on my timing. It feels better but not sure how close I am. Getting the ball into my swing motion quicker really threw off my game for about a week. Now it's feeling a bit more natural. I would assume it's still off but I thought I would post another video.

The first ball felt good but I left a couple pins. I am extremely uncomfortable with the 10 pin and throwing to spares to my right. I gutter more times than I don't. I'm not sure what my issue is but you can see on the second swing I lost my balance and couldn't keep it on the lane.



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#138335 - 10/30/10 12:50 PM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
shadowcat Offline
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Registered: 05/29/10
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Doc,

You might want to check this out for your spare game. Helped me alot.

http://www.tenpinbowling.org/view.php?page=the_game.spare_systems
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#138336 - 10/30/10 01:13 PM Re: My first video [Re: shadowcat]
DocLogic77 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/10
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That is indeed helpful. The main issue I have is when I have to turn towards the right gutter. I think it has to do with me naturally opening up my shoulders even on strike swings. I think it's exaggerated when I must go for those right pins. However, I'm not complete sure and I haven't found a cure for my right spare woes.
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Started bowling regularly (June 2010)
Storm Virtual Gravity #15
Columbia Bedlam #15
Storm Natural Pearl #15
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High Game-259 (5/4/11)
High Series-690 (5/4/11)
First Clean Game-1/13/11-204, second 234 (1/17/11)

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#138361 - 10/31/10 12:26 AM Re: My first video [Re: DocLogic77]
spr3wr Offline
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Registered: 08/19/06
Posts: 557
A/S/L: 54/m/MICHIGAN
1)While in the stance you should not see the ball from the back view until your 2nd step. Start the ball inline with your right chest at waist height.



2) your pushaway should drop over your right knee on your 1st step.Take a long 1st step (think heel toe) A free armswing will take over from there.


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#138365 - 10/31/10 06:23 AM Re: My first video [Re: spr3wr]
DocLogic77 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/10
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I certainly want all the advice I can get. But, I have heard different things with starting position of ball. I have heard from some that the ball should be positioned where your swing plane will be. When you see Chris Barnes his starting position is more to the outside. I know others start where you are describing.

So, are you saying to start waist height under right chest dropping it over right knee? How do you avoid hitting your right knee? I apologize for being ignorant on this topic I just don't quite understand what you are asking me to do.


Edited by DocLogic77 (10/31/10 06:24 AM)
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First Clean Game-1/13/11-204, second 234 (1/17/11)

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