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#126014 - 04/20/10 02:05 AM Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ?
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I think in the old days before the automated scoring system I would have prefered the Petraglia due to the fact that it would been easy to keep score.
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#126022 - 04/20/10 10:49 AM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: BowlingAddict]
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It's just a different way to keep score, kind of like winning individual holes in golf, versus total stroke score. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. It could be fun for a nice change of pace.

Since I grew up keeping score "by hand" in bowling, the traditional scoring method never seemed all that difficult to me.
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#126049 - 04/20/10 03:32 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: wklstoy]
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While I do appreciate the simplicity of the Petraglia scoring system, it is likely to produce a lot more tie games and potentially a lot longer games than the traditional scoring method.

For example, 9/ 9/ 9/ would produce the same score as 5/ 7/ 8/ under the Petraglia system. I think most bowlers would agree that the first bowler is bowling better than the second bowler. The traditional scoring system rewards that bowler with the higher score.

With kids and less experienced bowlers, I could see some frames taking 5 balls or more to clear the deck. That could become frustrating for everybody. A maximum number of "strokes" would probably have to be established (like in miniature golf) in order to keep things moving.

Lastly, the pinsetters would have to be re-programmed not to sweep the deck after the second shot. I could just see the manager's face at my local bowling center after calling in a re-rack every few shots because the bowlers wanted to use the Petraglia scoring system.
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#126053 - 04/20/10 03:52 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: Joe Bowler]
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I'd like to see it added as an option at the lanes because I think it would be great for practice sessions. Get up and shoot the 10, followed by the 7 and finally the strike ball. It would make practice more interesting I think.
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#126056 - 04/20/10 04:48 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: LB75]
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Although I thought it would be somewhat interesting, Joe brought up some good points. I know in our league, a team who strikes frequently often finishes sooner than those who get more spares in the game. Basically only throwing 1 ball, compared to 2 balls. I could imagine how long it would take having to throw multiple balls.
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#126086 - 04/21/10 08:51 AM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: ecub]
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Another potential issue for bowling centers...

A good bowler walks into a bowling center and tells them he wants to practice using the Petraglia scoring system. So he throws the first ball and leaves a 10-pin. He then spends the next 2 hours rolling balls along his strike line, never coming close to picking up the 10-pin. When he is all done, he goes to the counter and they ask how many games did you bowl? He says one frame!

I could just see the manager at my bowling center start charging people 25 cents times their Petraglia score per game. A perfect game - $2.50. A two shot per frame game - $5.00, and up from there. Now, there's an incentive to improve your bowling scores! But, obviously not good for normal practice with various balls, lines, coaching sessions, etc.
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#126105 - 04/21/10 01:50 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: Joe Bowler]
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For a specialized event like the womens series this weekend, it's a nice change of pace, but just because most people never had to learn how to keep score by hand? No. It does make the scoring system a lot more like golf, though, so if you made a 3 game series (or up to, say, an 8 game block) one Petraglia game, then it might be a nice format for a tournament. The problem is that too many 10 frame games would end in ties, requiring roll-offs, but if you made them 30-80 frames long, you'd get a little more separation in the field.
What makes bowling's standard scoring system unique is that your score depends on when you miss (spare then 11 strikes is 290, but 3 bagger, 9/, 8 in a row is 279), and multiple frames are required to calculate your score for most frames (strike is 10 plus the next 2 balls). Golf (or the Petraglia system) does not take into account what you did on any one particular hole (or frame)- it's just the total number of shots needed to finish the course (or knock down 10 racks of pins).
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#126109 - 04/21/10 03:10 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: Fin09]
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If it was possible, the center could charge something like .25 cents per ball thrown, if a bowler wanted to use the system. Thus eliminating the issue that Joe brought up.

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#126112 - 04/21/10 04:11 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: ecub]
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A par game of 15 would cost almost 4 bucks. No thanks. I prefer being charged by the hour, and not practicing with score. If the score is on, something should be on the line, which means I am not throwing away shots.
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#126117 - 04/21/10 05:51 PM Re: Anyone prefer the Petraglia scoring system ? [Re: cgeorg]
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How's this for scoring?
Each frame has one shot, with the option of a second shot if you knock down pins.

If you throw a strike, you get 20 points. In this case, there's no reason to throw a second shot.

For adults - If you throw a non-strike and elect to go to the next frame, you get only the number of pins you knocked down. If you elect to throw a second ball and get all the remaining pins down, you get 15 points. If you fail to get all the pins down in two shots, you score 0 for that frame.

For kids - you always get 2 throws, and count the pins knocked down, so you either get 1-9 or 15 or 20 per frame. (or 0 for 2 gutter balls)

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