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#123558 - 03/25/10 12:02 PM Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking
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Q: Would sanding a plastic ball add some hookability?

OK, so my son, who will be 11 in April, wants to hook the ball. His weight is under 100 pounds and he is pretty much max'ed out at 10 pounds. He can force plastic balls to hook now, especially the lighter ones.

Is a fingertip grip reasonable? With or without inserts?

I was thinking of giving him a Brunswick Power Groove or something like that soon. What do you think?

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#123559 - 03/25/10 12:13 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: aoiten]
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Yes, sanding a plastic ball will increase surface friction and hook potential.

A fingertip grip will also increase hook potential. Inserts should help make the grip more comfortable and secure.
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#123561 - 03/25/10 12:36 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: Joe Bowler]
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Your best bet is a cheap ball that fits and good coaching, don't waste money on getting him a high end ball.

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#123572 - 03/25/10 02:37 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: B-Hammer]
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Originally Posted By: B-Hammer
Your best bet is a cheap ball that fits and good coaching, don't waste money on getting him a high end ball.


How cheap is cheap? I can get the Power Groove for $57, but yeah, drilling costs more for a reactive ball. It's categorised as an entry-level ball as far as hooking goes.

My son doesn't take instruction very well. I'm afraid he's going to break his arm off at the elbow by forcing plastic balls to hook the way he does. On top of that, he keeps switching weights and starting his approach while the sweep is just lifting up! ADHD--A Detrimental Hyper-active Delivery

I believe he could be good at hooking with a decent ball and some practice. League will be over soon though, so I don't know about the coaching part. I only know the concepts of hooking, and my wife is working on reversing her back-up ball.

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#123573 - 03/25/10 02:44 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: Joe Bowler]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Bowler
Yes, sanding a plastic ball will increase surface friction and hook potential.

A fingertip grip will also increase hook potential. Inserts should help make the grip more comfortable and secure.


Do you have a suggestion of the grit of the sandpaper?

Ah, I guess grips would make it easier to make minor adjustments over time as well. I was just concerned about his fingers being strong enough.

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#123578 - 03/25/10 03:16 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: aoiten]
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Originally Posted By: aoiten
Do you have a suggestion of the grit of the sandpaper?

Ah, I guess grips would make it easier to make minor adjustments over time as well. I was just concerned about his fingers being strong enough.

1000 or 2000 grit should be enough to see a difference from an otherwise shiny plastic ball. 500 grit would be the lowest I would go. Remember, it is still a plastic ball, so it is not going to have the same hook shape or carry as a reactive resin ball.

With the proper weight ball, a fingertip grip should not be too difficult to handle, especially if he is already showing the tendency to grip it and rip it to get the ball to hook.
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#123583 - 03/25/10 03:44 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: Joe Bowler]
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I would honestly have him watch the pros on TV.. and then film him when he bowls and point out the differences...
most pro's now adays are not ripping the heck out of the ball to get it to hook.. balance, timing, and Execution is what gives the ball hook and power..

seeing what you look like when you bowl is sometimes a real eye opener and can lead you to changes for the better.


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#123604 - 03/25/10 09:11 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: J_w73]
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Originally Posted By: J_w73
I would honestly have him watch the pros on tv.. and then film him when he bowls and point out the differences...


Will do. I don't even want to see myself, but I believe in video analysis.

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#123614 - 03/25/10 11:45 PM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: aoiten]
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the pros will be using plastic on Sunday. This is a good weekend to watch.
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#123616 - 03/26/10 12:04 AM Re: Sanding a Plastic Ball and On to Hooking [Re: Smooth Stroker]
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I see many kids on my league that try to hook their plastic balls. To be honest I would recommend a scout ball or some other ball of that nature.


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