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#118441 - 02/17/10 11:47 AM 2010 USBC Open Championships
Richie V. Offline
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Figured I'd get this year's nationals thread going with something everyone wants to see...the oil pattern laugh

http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/...-oc-pattern.pdf

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Length: 40'
Total oil: 26.05 ml
Ratio: ~3:1
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#118443 - 02/17/10 11:55 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: Richie V.]
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doesn't look like a very difficult oil pattern for the untrained eye. What is supposed to make this pattern difficult? (i assume it's difficult since it's for the usbc).

Also where would you play this pattern?
Around the 4 board (breakpoint) because it's more or less flat there? Or more to the inside?

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#118463 - 02/17/10 01:52 PM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: spectral]
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The center to outer oil ratio is what will make it difficult compared to a THS. I think a THS is ~15:1 if I remember correctly. Flatter oil patterns are more challenging because there's not much hold in the center for guiding the ball in the pocket. The center/track area will also be more prone to becoming dry and playing like a reverse block.
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#118498 - 02/17/10 06:26 PM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: VFF57]
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With a 40 ft pattern, the breakpoint should be around the 8-11 board range. Like VFF said, what makes this pattern a bit more difficult than the THS is it's flatness. At the same time the National shot is one of the fairest shots laid down. All style players can play it but they have to accurate.
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#118585 - 02/18/10 08:36 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: spectral]
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Originally Posted By: spectral
Also where would you play this pattern?
Around the 4 board (breakpoint) because it's more or less flat there? Or more to the inside?


Quick rule of thumb for where your breakpoint should be is:

(length of pattern)-31 = breakpoint

So a 38 foot pattern would be 38-31=7, your breakpoint is the 7 board.
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#118586 - 02/18/10 08:46 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: Dan300]
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isn't this very oil pattern dependend?

seems odd to have a rule of thumb for stuff like this?

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#118589 - 02/18/10 09:47 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: spectral]
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Originally Posted By: spectral
isn't this very oil pattern dependend?

seems odd to have a rule of thumb for stuff like this?


Rule of thumb doesn't mean "set in concrete". It just gives you a good starting point from which to make adjustments.
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#118593 - 02/18/10 10:03 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: Dan300]
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would you play a flat 40-feet oil pattern with lots and lots of units of oil on the 9 board for breakpoint?

i doubt anyone would be able to play there?

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#118597 - 02/18/10 10:22 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: spectral]
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spectral, take a look at the recreational series patterns which represents what a THS could look like at the kegel site:

http://www.kegel.net/patternlibrary/default.asp

Besides a big difference in oil ratio, outside of 10 on a THS is very light on oil compared to the USBC Open pattern. A THS creates a bumper affect by having the outsides dry and a flood of oil in the center. On a THS if you miss to the outside the ball will come back, if you miss to the inside, the ball will hold.

If you try and play the USBC Open pattern to far outside, the ball won't come back unless you have a ton of hand. Having more oil outside of 10 with a small ratio as I mentioned, could also create a reverse block like condition once the pattern breaks down from reactives being thrown inside of 10.


On fresh, I personally would try and play this pattern up the 8 board and adjust from there especially as it broke down. As already mentioned accuracy would have to be within a board or 2 plus speed/rev consistancy is also a factor. If I walked away with a 600+ series on this pattern I would be happy.
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#118603 - 02/18/10 10:38 AM Re: 2010 USBC Open Championships [Re: spectral]
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Originally Posted By: spectral
isn't this very oil pattern dependend?

seems odd to have a rule of thumb for stuff like this?


when you are on a flatter tougher pattern you will want any tip or starting point you can get..
the formula works well for sport patterns where your ball isn't going to be hooking from the wall. You have to rely on the end of the pattern to hook.. this formula will tell you what board you have to be on so that if you get to the pocket from that board you will be at the correct entry angle and have the best chance to carry.. how you get to that board so that the ball still gets to the pocket is the tricky part...
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