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#118295 - 02/16/10 12:11 PM Ryan Ciminelli
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I'll tell you guys that this 21-year-old can BRING IT from outside the first arrow, and especially when he is given an outside line to play with so he can use his Storm Natural urethane ball (to cut the amount of hook down as he generates a very high rev-rate) and rip the finger holes out of it, but I have a few things to ask

Will he be as successful as he has been so far in his just young career if

1) He either had to use a reactive ball on some patterns, in which for some shots that he throws might over-react

or

2) He has to play in and swing it from the deep-inside line as opposed to firing it up from the extreme-outside line

What do you think???

I also say that to be the complete package that I think he will become soon, he just needs to not throw a tentative shot coming out of commercial break (as he did against WRW this past Sunday, when he left the 4-6-10).
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#118303 - 02/16/10 01:26 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: BIGHMW]
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I think that boy ROCKS !

And I go for the 2-nd option
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#118304 - 02/16/10 01:28 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: BIGHMW]
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People were talking in another thread that at the masters everyone had to play deep even WRWJ, so I'm assuming the lefties did as well which might mean Ryan was playing a deeper line with a more angular ball. If xtra frame is still free might want to check the earlier round coverage.

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#118306 - 02/16/10 01:39 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: B-Hammer]
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I can't wait to see Ciminelli make a show on something like the Shark, so we can see him rip into a reactive.
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#118310 - 02/16/10 01:46 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: cgeorg]
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Time will tell. He has been fun to watch. He has had success this season. I like the fact that he throws urethane(very interesting) He throws nice and hard and has had composure(TV finals verses WRWJ and Duke....thats pressure) But time will tell....People said the same thing about Sean Rash after he got out of college and look here years after winning the Masters....he has been laying eggs, especially on TV and not converting easy spares. Rash seems lost.
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#118314 - 02/16/10 02:30 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: Hooker]
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It is funny though...
Ryan seems to force the ball (not a free swing), and still he made it to the telecast ! lol !
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#118316 - 02/16/10 03:06 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: Vini]
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Originally Posted By: Vini
It is funny though...
Ryan seems to force the ball (not a free swing), and still he made it to the telecast ! lol !


There's a difference between forcing the swing and accelerating through the release. Ciminelli, Robert Smith, Sean Rash, etc have relaxed swings, but when it comes time to unload the release, they definitely put some energy into it(the release). The arm. wrist, and hand load up in the swing, and then unload/snap through the ball at the point of release. For us, the idea is to roll it smoothly off of your hand... well, they just roll it off of their hands with a good deal more snap than most everyone else. wink

The trick is to let the ball fall, relaxed arm, then still be strong with the wrist/hand. Neat trick if you can master it... been working on it all season. smile

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#118318 - 02/16/10 03:12 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: trekguy]
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Ciminelli reminds me of "The Buzzsaw" from a few years back the way he curls up that arm and snaps it through. I think he's the real thing....solid form, and power.
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#118335 - 02/16/10 05:33 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: trekguy]
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did you master it ?
I mean the snap.
I have tried it few times but it is soon for me. When I tried it I ended up forcing my swing. so for now 250-300 revs will have to do.
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#118345 - 02/16/10 06:21 PM Re: Ryan Ciminelli [Re: trekguy]
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Originally Posted By: trekguy
Ciminelli reminds me of "The Buzzsaw" from a few years back the way he curls up that arm and snaps it through.

John Gant! Yeah, now that you mention it I can kinda see it, too. Good call. smile When the lane condition gave Gant room to send that ball left and let it go to work, it was usually boom, 10 in the pit.
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