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#109522 - 12/08/09 08:51 PM Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year?
BIGHMW Offline
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Well, I am quite surprised as how few sponsors the PBA has for this season. So far on ESPN's Telecasts, it seems like we are being force-fed more than our fair share of Lumber Liquidators (featuring PB III and his wife Leslie) and Barbasol commercials, and that's about it. What happened to some of the better sponsors like Denny's, Motel 6, CLR, H & R Block, BowlersParadise.com, and Ace Hardware?

Other than that, how many of the other so-called "sponsors" actually support and/or back up the PBA or bowling in general? I seems like none, I don't see how Cialis and Flomax have any relation to bowling at all (except for the fact that those two target men, the predominant viewers of the Tour), and how about the great folks at Gemini, the guys who make those great looking jerseys our heroes wear every Sunday? I would dig hearing a commercial for them like "...now YOU can wear what the Pros wear with Gemini, The Official Jersey of the PBA.", and yes, they should make replicas of their jerseys (hey, every other league does and it wouldn't hurt to try) so we can wear our heroes on our backs when we bowl league every week or even when we cruise the streets.

So, how much would it be to get your company a 30-second spot on a PBA telecast? Knowing how low the TV ratings (lol) have been for the past several events, I'll bet that it shouldn't be very much.
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#109551 - 12/09/09 07:30 AM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: BIGHMW]
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I'm more disapointed that you really don't see many bowling company commercials during the telecast. Off the top of my head I can only think of the Storm commercial (which is pretty boring and doesn't talk about any ball specifically). Bowling ball sales are the big moneymakers so I think it would make sense to have bowling ball commercials.
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#109568 - 12/09/09 11:17 AM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: Handful]
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Originally Posted By: Handful
I'm more disapointed that you really don't see many bowling company commercials during the telecast. Off the top of my head I can only think of the Storm commercial (which is pretty boring and doesn't talk about any ball specifically). Bowling ball sales are the big moneymakers so I think it would make sense to have bowling ball commercials.


True.

I agree with your point there, although we also need a couple of bowling shoe commercials as well, from either Etonic, or Dexter (I use their shoes), to go along with the ball commercials, and also the promos for the USBC and those two amateur events in Vegas (the TAT and High Roller events).

As for Storm's own ads, I switched from another brand to Storm in February 2005, when I got my Vertigo drilled (since then I also had an Ace and Triple X drilled for me as well), and I can see the point of their own 30-second spot, something like "...there's a Storm coming", and BTW that is none other than PDW himself throwing one of his powerful strikes (as usual with Pete), although they only show his profile from the back and his silouette is darkened.

Hey, do you want last year's "Cheater!" promos that Ebonite and their combined brands ran last season or would you want a real ball ad which feaures its staff telling us how great their equipment is like they ran about 20-25 years ago?
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#109591 - 12/09/09 04:24 PM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: BIGHMW]
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Some of the commercials are run by ESPN as payment by the pba for the air time on their channel.

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#109610 - 12/09/09 09:05 PM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: CoachJim]
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I get the idea now but still I have heard enough Barbasol and Lumber Liquidators commercials to make me vomit right about now.

I would like to see more sponsors who will actually back the PBA ($$$) and add much-needed prize money to the Tour stops so that our heroes don't have to worry about not being able to afford to go on Tour from stop-to-stop. The way the economy is, I am surprised that the PBA hasn't gone out and aggressively pursued more sponsors, after all, they wouldn't have to worry about disgruntled players skipping events due to financial strains that in years past (back in the days when the Tour was year-round rather than a season like now) broke up families and triggered things like divorces and even forcing players scrambling to file for Chapter 11 because they couldn't go on Tour or have a backup plan due to the lack of a higher (college) education.

Wayne Webb mentioned this on A League Of Ordinary Gentlemen a few years back. Some of our heroes like my long-time bowling idol Brian Voss (sorry BV), Parker Bohn III, Pete Weber, Wayne Webb, and many others can relate to his quote as they all went through it (PDW is currently on his third marriage with his current wife Tracy, while PB3 is on his second with current wife and booking agent Leslie) and most of it was caused by the ups-and-downs the guys went through on Tour back when it was a year-round Tour as opposed to a set season like it is now (September-April, running side-by-side with league).

The one thing we all dread the most is the PBA ending up going bankrupt and eventually becoming belly-up like the PWBA did in 2003, and the only way the PBA and its players can survive is to get more sponsors, bottom line. Our Tour will not live longer with those who will not be around for more than one year, like General Tire (1994), Discover Card (2006-07) or these other jokes for sponsors they have had since they took over in 2000. It is no big secret that the PBA has lost a ton of money since then, and I don't know how much longer it can survive under these conditions.

Also, the PBA must get off of that miserable time slot ESPN has had for it for years now, going up against the mighty NFL/NBA/NASCAR/PGA wheel. Does there have to be some kind of scandal (like the Tiger Woods scandals going on right now) for the PBA to get any kind of recognition from the mainstream non-bowling media as well as to get more than 800,000 viewers to tune in every Sunday? Perhaps maybe Walter Ray Williams Jr. should have an affair with actress/supermodel/internet queen Cindy Margolis or at least something of that nature to get even the tabloid media to pay more attention to us.

Heck, even Chris "Boomer" Berman says some wisecrack remark about bowlers or makes fun of our great sport of bowling as he is signing off on Sunday NFL Countdown on ESPN every week, in which precedes the PBA.

I bet that right now, I could probably get my official website, the almighty BIGHMW.com, a 30-second spot or at least somewhat of an ad, perhaps a weekly "BIGHMW.com Player Of The Year Points Race" spot or something like that. It'll be that cheap. Check out my BIGHMW Network of websites for yourselves (they are all in my signature, links to them all are included), I bet after you see them for yourselves that my sites or even any of you fellow members can scrounge up enough $$$ to get even this great website and its forums a 30-second spot on Tour. I'll pitch in some, how about you?
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#109614 - 12/09/09 09:26 PM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: BIGHMW]
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I see two problems.

One is that there were more viewers for the PBA in the old days cause the majority of people who watched could relate to the people on tour. Bowling was much simpler...and everyone was on a league. Now it looks like most of the people it will draw are current high average bowlers who throw the ball like the touring pros do.

Two is that most people don't consider bowling a sport. They look at it as an activity....even though what most of the pros show is guaranteed to work up a sweat;)

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#109620 - 12/09/09 11:26 PM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: JackZ]
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Originally Posted By: JackZ
I see two problems.

One is that there were more viewers for the PBA in the old days cause the majority of people who watched could relate to the people on tour. Bowling was much simpler...and everyone was on a league. Now it looks like most of the people it will draw are current high average bowlers who throw the ball like the touring pros do.


True, true, true. It seems like too many kids wanna throw the ball like Tommy Jones, Wes Malott, Sean Rash or Jason Belmonte (what... they actually wanna throw the two-handed sick power ball like Belmo? YIKES!) as opposed to keeping it in play and most importantly, filling frames like we do. All they care about is the great strike ball these guys can throw, but can they convert spares like they can?

Originally Posted By: JackZ
Two is that most people don't consider bowling a sport. They look at it as an activity....even though what most of the pros show is guaranteed to work up a sweat;)


Yes it is a sport, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, as you and I are involved in a very special game with the gift of being athletes regardless of whether people think we are or not.

As for the sweat factor, yes, we do put up one after about 1 or 2 solid hours of practice a day, and to quote Bo Burton from a few years back.... "How many miles can you walk with 16 pounds in your hand?". I mentioned this in my 20 Questions link on my website, you can see it and more at BIGHMW.com.

After that much practice on a Sunday afternoon (or on Saturday during ABC's telecasts in the old days), both fueled and inspired by what we just witnessed on ESPN that morning, it would then be time after practice to skip the center's Pepsi machine and head to the next-door quickie-mart for a couple of quarts of Gatorade. Yes we are indeed athletes, I say.
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#109632 - 12/10/09 08:04 AM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: BIGHMW]
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Here is a possible solution. Instead of professional bowling being individual versus individual at various tour stops, how about 5-man teams versus 5-man teams, each team from a different location. Just like other sports, on the weekend, the teams compete against each other at various arenas around the country. A 3-game match point system ought to make it interesting enough. Instead of competing for prize money, bowlers that make the team get paid a salary. During the week, they live at home and practice together at a local bowling center. Every season there is a "draft", where teams can recruit new bowlers. A full roster might have 10 bowlers, with 5 competing at each event.

For the fan, it would take the team concept they are familiar with from bowling league, and other sports, and extend it to their local professional bowling team. Scouts might even want to recruit bowlers from local leagues. Building a broader fan base is what I believe will attract more sponsors. People love to root for their home team.

All that is needed is somebody with the money and guts to get it started.
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#109636 - 12/10/09 08:45 AM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: Joe Bowler]
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Joe, that was the way it used to be in the 60's. You had the Budweiser team. The Terryton Cigarette team, and a number of others. The team sponsors were also the program sponsors. But, think of how much TV time you would have to have. 5-man teams rolling 3 games would take 3 hours of air time. This was especially popular among Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis teams. Local travel teams would compete for the right to represent their City. Chicago had their Chicago Classic League.

It was reported somewhere, that during the taping of one of these matches, the taping camera broke, and Johnny King (Chicago Team) went to the bar for a couple of shots while they fixed it. Came back and struck out.
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#109641 - 12/10/09 09:49 AM Re: Anyone wanna sponsor the Tour this year? [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I was born in 1960, and did not become interested in bowling till my 20's, so I missed that era. How many games did they bowl against each other back then? For a televised event, I agree there would have to be a balance between required air time and what would satisfy fans that actually go to see the event.

Perhaps a one-game match with 5 bowlers on each team would be interesting enough, and could possibly take an hour with commercial breaks, high fives after each shot (like in college bowling), reracks, timeouts (?). etc. With only one game, every shot would be that much more critical. And, an hour would not be too demanding on a fan's attention span.

The team concept [re]introduces some interesting variables. Who is the lead off bowler? Who is the anchor? Who is up against who? Who does the coach put in on the Shark pattern versus the Cheetah pattern? Fans love statistics. Which bowler is best in which spot? which pattern? etc...

At the end of the season, I would envision the top teams competing in a "world series/super bowl" event, which might be the best of 7 series, contested over 4 to 7 days.
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