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#100022 - 08/08/09 04:10 PM Reconmended Finger Pitches.....
Rob183 Offline
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Registered: 04/19/09
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I have about 1/8 reverse on my thumb hole. With an 1/8 right.. I was wondering what is the recommended on the fingers.. My span is about 4 1/2 or a little less of the relax fitting. Right now my fingers are reversed and I am coming out the ball super fast and coming around it.. I am more like spinning the ball.. Track is now father away from the thumb.. So I am feeling like the pitches are off.. I think the fingers are pitched about an 1/8 or more forward... So moving it back to zero could help or is it something else...

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#100025 - 08/08/09 05:36 PM Re: Reconmended Finger Pitches..... [Re: Rob183]
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You say you have reverse but then say you think it is 1/8 forward...I'm guessing you meant reverse. 1/8th reverse isn't much, though whether or not it is right for you is hard to say without seeing your fingers.

Based on your description it sounds more like a wrist / release problem. If the ball is spinning and you have a low track, that is usually a case of heaving a weak wrist at release. This can be caused by a number of things. With your ball in hand, hanging at your side, with your arm relaxed, can you curl your wrist and hold the ball in that position for a count of 10? If not you will need to work on wrist strength, if you can do this then there is something else happening prior to release that is causing you to break your wrist back. The best way to figure out what is going on is to post a video (or see a coach in person).

Edit: Just watched your video that was posted a couple months ago. It's pretty dark and hard to tell, but it looks like at the release you are on the side and slightly on top of the ball. Do you still pull the ball up and let your elbow fly out like that? Or do you have that kink worked out some? Can you post a new video (hopefully with better lighting!)?
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#100027 - 08/08/09 06:02 PM Re: Reconmended Finger Pitches..... [Re: TenPin_]
Dennis Michael Offline
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Rob, the spinning is probably NOT from your fingers. It is most likely from your wrist turning before the release. Early rotation does cause a spin.

On finger pitches, it depends on your finger. My ring finger is 0 pitch, however, my middle finger is reverse 1/4 due to slight arthritis.

Just remember, a forward finger pitch will equate to a stretched span.
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#100030 - 08/08/09 06:32 PM Re: Reconmended Finger Pitches..... [Re: Dennis Michael]
Rob183 Offline
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OK, my finger pitches are reversed and my thumb is reversed also.. I also have a relaxed span due to the fact that when I was stretched out my hand would hurt. The Pro Shop operator said since my hand is already in the relaxed position my fingers should not be reversed. He also told me this is causing me to lose lift and my hand is more open so that causes me come around the ball faster. In which I was feeling when I just got this ball drilled.. I have pretty much corrected my arm ever since I have put up that video.. It is almost straight and now I can feel when something is wrong.. Also my fingers was at zero some time ago and I used to feel more hit on the ball on my ring finger.. Now all the pressure has gone to the middle finger ever since the drill. So maybe with that info you can give me more insight..

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#100038 - 08/08/09 07:49 PM Re: Reconmended Finger Pitches..... [Re: Rob183]
Dennis Michael Offline
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If you use finger grips, try the oval pro lift grips rather than changing your pitch. You should feel that in your release rather than changing our pitch.
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#100048 - 08/08/09 09:37 PM Re: Reconmended Finger Pitches..... [Re: Dennis Michael]
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I feel the ball more on my middle finger than my ring finger when I do it right.
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