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#124287 - 04/01/10 10:39 PM Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook)
petdocvmd Offline

Registered: 03/22/10
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Hi Folks,

In my previous post, I lamented my inability to hook it on a PBAx pattern, where I'm averaging 160 over 8 games vs. 222 on a house pattern with no problems getting at least 7-12 boards of hook.

After getting some excellent advice here regarding my grip, span and approach, I did the following:

- Had bowling balls re-fitted and drilled: span *was* too big and had 5/8" reverse thumb pitch. Span is now much more comfortable, and combined with 1/8" reverse thumb pitch and judicious use of tape, I do not feel I am "gripping" the ball throughout the swing.

- Revised my stance to put more ball weight in left hand, start a bit more flexed in knees and slightly lowered right shoulder.

- Practiced a slower approach, and "sitting" more into the shot plus more knee bend.

I'm posting two videos: one of my updated approach from back and side, in normal and slow motion, the other later in the session and including a spare shot. I was using my plastic spare ball for everything, standing left instep 23, sliding 23 (occ drift 1-2 bds) and aiming 17 to 17 (aimpoint dots). I did this to maximize any errors. In hindsight (after reading Larry Matthew's booklet), I think I have underestimated my toe-to-shoulder distance by ~ 2-3 boards.

Here's the first video:

And the second:

My observations/comments:

- Release is occurring before slide is complete (early).

- Swing is inside-out.

- Hand position is 90 degrees prior to release (suitcase - though I really was not thinking at all about this or trying to correct it in this session).

- Still don't seem low enough at the line. In fact, I seem to raise slightly before, then lower briefly *after* the release???

- In the majority of deliveries, the ball bounced, albeit slightly, despite being released far lower and closer than the previous week.


- Should I start my first step slightly sooner to ensure I plant before release? I know Marshall Holman released it in the slide, but I'm no Marshall ;-)

- Do I try to correct the inside-out? I think I have always thrown that way, and back in the day I carried 205 on primitive conditions, and have a nice looking shot that fits my eye on house conditions. The problem is on PBAx I am rolling outside-in, getting 2-4 boards of hook. It's hard to aim that swing and it doesn't suit my eye. I practiced an exaggerated inside pushaway on the day of this video, which did straighten up my swing, but felt very unnatural and my brain oft-overruled it and forced the shot right (it's about a 2-3 board swing). Also, spares are suddenly a nightmare (I used to hook at them) because my "straight" shot is offset with the inside out. I'm currently dealing by lining up and aiming left of where a truly straight swing would take the ball, or pushing *way* inside to straighten the swing (as in the video).

- Any thoughts regarding the slight but irritating bounce on lane contact?

- Same for the little head bob I seem to be doing around the release?

Thanks in advance for your help. I'm, already indebted by virtue of your quick detection of my excessive grip and ill fitting ball, and much appreciate the constructive advice found on this site :-D


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Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) petdocvmd 04/01/10 10:39 PM
Re: Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) sk8shorty01 04/02/10 09:39 AM
Re: Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) sk8shorty01 04/02/10 09:52 AM
Re: Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) petdocvmd 04/02/10 12:44 PM
Re: Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) sk8shorty01 04/02/10 01:37 PM
Re: Follow up (re: PBAx / no hook) 10PinGaloot 04/02/10 02:24 PM

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